# A simple question for Trump supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213 "2019-10-03T17:21:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/301 "2019-10-10T15:58:45Z")

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Gary Johnson, the first name that should come to mind when one mentions ‘electability’.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/302 "2019-10-10T15:59:20Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> Tell you what, whether or not you decide to Primary someone electable or not is not my responsibility.
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> But hey, I am open to compromise. Let’s vote in Gary Johnson and we can both be winners!

Again, you have no problem committing to that which you know has no chance in happening. Brave, _brave_ Sir Robin!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/303 "2019-10-10T16:03:34Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> And this is more just crazy straw as it’s a good thing I will have more than 2 choices …

1. Lie to us and vote for Trump
2. Vote for somebody that doesn’t really have a chance in hell
3. Vote for nobody and let others do your dirty work for you

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/304 "2019-10-10T16:07:02Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. Lie to us and vote for Trump
> 2. Vote for somebody that doesn’t really have a chance in hell
> 3. Vote for nobody and let others do your dirty work for you

Shit! That straw is now on FIRE!!!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/305 "2019-10-10T16:09:37Z")

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Somewhere, Thomas Hobson is weeping.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/306 "2019-10-10T16:10:43Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> Shit! That straw is now on FIRE!!!

Let us get down to the real nitty gritty:  
If it came down to George Washington vs. Trump, could you give us a solid commitment either way? What if it was Lincoln vs. Trump?  
Clark Kent vs. Trump?

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/307 "2019-10-10T16:15:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Let us get down to the real nitty gritty:  
> If it came down to George Washington vs. Trump, could you give us a solid commitment either way? What if it was Lincoln vs. Trump?  
> Clark Kent vs. Trump?

Nah, all them guys is sissies

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/308 "2019-10-10T16:25:09Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> Nah, all them guys is sissies

You are the one that showed how committed you are when it comes to imaginary face-offs.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/309 "2019-10-10T16:42:03Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> I honestly do not know, I may likely not vote at all if no one gets any closer to my ideals and those limits kind of paint me in a corner.  
> Limited government is an ideal I do not hold lightly and from all the stuff you expected the Obama admin to do lines up with future Democrat admin, I doubt I could vote that way. Given that I would vote for Obama over Trump TODAY, but I’d rather have a Clinton or even a Bush back.
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> Editted to add: I didn’t vote for Trump the last time, nor would I this go round.

I’m sorry, I don’t really understand what you mean when you say you can’t work within the limits while saying you’d vote for Obama if he was on the ticket. The assumptions I listed were explicitly identified as Obama era policies. So whichever Dem candidate was selected, those would be the platforms.

So while I appreciate that you would not vote for Trump under any circumstances, I’m a little confused that you’d sit it out rather than cast a vote for Obama (or Clinton, or Bush) policies.

It feels like you’re hedging your bet and I’m not sure why.

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/310 "2019-10-10T16:42:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You are the one that showed how committed you are when it comes to imaginary face-offs.

Just for posterity. Commitment, and imaginary in the same sentence! Whew, how horrible I am for not being able to commit on a fantasy face off.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/311 "2019-10-10T16:43:33Z")

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I’d be worried that Lincoln or Washington might be a bit out of touch. Though Lincoln in particular I feel could do well if people got him up to speed. I wonder if he’s living in San Dimas right now.

Clark Kent isn’t eligible for the presidency, since he wasn’t born on US soil. Or even Earth soil.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/312 "2019-10-10T16:47:11Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’d be worried that Lincoln or Washington might be a bit out of touch.

More than Trump? 😃

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/313 "2019-10-10T16:49:31Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> Just for posterity. Commitment, and imaginary in the same sentence! Whew, how horrible I am for not being able to commit on a fantasy face off.

You can’t even comprehend your own posts, it seems. The only face-offs you seem willing to commit to _are_ the imaginary ones.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/314 "2019-10-10T16:49:50Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> I may very well end up voting third party, given that option.

Donald Trump would welcome your support in that way.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/315 "2019-10-10T16:50:31Z")

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Vote Betelgeuse 2020.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/316 "2019-10-10T16:51:05Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Especially that asshole Shodan. Who should fucking well know better.

Nah, he shouldn’t and doesn’t. You got the asshole part right tho.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/317 "2019-10-10T16:52:40Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> And this is more just crazy straw as it’s a good thing I will have more than 2 choices …

[Wrong](https://www.electionscience.org/commentary-analysis/voting-theory-what-is-duvergers-law/).

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/318 "2019-10-10T17:18:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> More than Trump? 😃

Trump is definitely in his own la-la land much of the time, where everything he does is right and is the best ever and everyone knows this and loves him except for the crooks out there with their fake news. But he understands modern technology, generally knows what countries exist and their relations to the US, has at least a weak grasp of history from the past 200 years, and so on.

Though I do admit that I like the idea of a president that might assume “Twitter” is referring to bird calls, rather than making himself look dangerously insane on the platform regularly.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/319 "2019-10-10T17:19:55Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> It feels like you’re hedging your bet and I’m not sure why.

He/She/It is a gutless coward. Just like Little Donny Fail-Fail and ALL his MAGAtrash fans.

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**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/320 "2019-10-10T19:17:30Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You can’t even comprehend your own posts, it seems. The only face-offs you seem willing to commit to _are_ the imaginary ones.

As far as I remember, Gary Johnson was actually ON the ticket …

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