# A simple question for Trump supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213 "2019-10-03T17:21:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/81 "2019-10-04T02:08:20Z")

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Another question, re this Guardian article: [Trump announces record campaign haul amid impeachment inquiry](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/02/trump-2020-fundraising-money-amid-impeachment-inquiry). Trampsters (not all rich) send their money to a self-proclaimed multi-billionaire who brags of cheating on taxes. Umm… why?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/82 "2019-10-04T02:11:09Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Were you similarly outraged when it was revealed that paid agent of the Clinton campaign approached Russian officials, and subsequently funneled millions of dollars to them, for the infamous fake dossier (the one so obviously fake that even NYTimes refused to print that garbage, leaving it to the extreme far-left outlets like Buzzfeed and CNN to do the dirty job).  
> If you were not outraged, **What in the holy fuck is wrong with you??** At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?

Yes, when President Hillary Clinton did that, in her official capacity as the head of the executive branch and of the foreign policy of the US, I was indeed outraged.

Then I woke up, and remembered we had that electoral college thingie.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/83 "2019-10-04T02:15:07Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Yes, when President Hillary Clinton did that, in her official capacity as the head of the executive branch and of the foreign policy of the US, I was indeed outraged.
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> Then I woke up, and remembered we had that electoral college thingie.

Ah, so you’re ok with US Presidential candidate funneling millions of dollars for fake information about their political opponents from Russian operatives.

What in the holy fuck is wrong with you?? At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/84 "2019-10-04T02:29:21Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Ah, so you’re ok with US Presidential candidate funneling millions of dollars for fake information about their political opponents from Russian operatives.
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> What in the holy fuck is wrong with you?? At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?

Absolutely. If Mark Sanford or Corey Booker or Amy Klobuchar wants to spend money on hookers and blow, I don’t care. If such a person becomes one of the two major-party candidates, I’ll weigh that along with fifty other considerations, compare this sum total to the other major party’s candidate, and cast my vote accordingly.

What does ANY of this have to do with the current president of this US? Bupkis. Nada. Zilch.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/85 "2019-10-04T02:30:58Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Absolutely. If Mark Sanford or Corey Booker or Amy Klobuchar wants to spend money on hookers and blow, I don’t care.

Do you care if they collude with Russian operatives to collect fake political dossier on their political opponents?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/86 "2019-10-04T02:31:15Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Ah, so you’re ok with US Presidential candidate funneling millions of dollars for fake information about their political opponents from Russian operatives.
> 
> What in the holy fuck is wrong with you?? At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?

When do you clock out, comrade?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/87 "2019-10-04T02:32:34Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Were you similarly outraged when it was revealed that paid agent of the Clinton campaign approached Russian officials, and subsequently funneled millions of dollars to them, for the infamous fake dossier?

Could you kindly re-reveal it for those following along at home? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/88 "2019-10-04T02:34:35Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> When do you clock out, comrade?

Northeast would be Kamchatka, so it’s barely daybreak.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/89 "2019-10-04T02:35:16Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Could you kindly re-reveal it for those following along at home? Thanks.

What’s there to reveal? DNC and Clinton campaign funneled millions of dollars to Russian operatives to collect dirt on Clinton’s political enemy. The return on their investment was so pathetic, that only Goebbels-like outlets like Buzzfeed and CNN decided to publish it, while even the hard-code leftist rag like NY Times refused to publish it.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/90 "2019-10-04T02:36:19Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> When do you clock out, comrade?

I clock-out в семнадцать ноль-ноль, товарищ.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/91 "2019-10-04T02:36:39Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Were you similarly outraged when it was revealed that paid agent of the Clinton campaign approached Russian officials, and subsequently funneled millions of dollars to them, for the infamous fake dossier (the one so obviously fake that even NYTimes refused to print that garbage, leaving it to the extreme far-left outlets like Buzzfeed and CNN to do the dirty job).  
> If you were not outraged, **What in the holy fuck is wrong with you??** At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?

Hey, Mr. Look!-Over-There!  
Are you a Trump supporter?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/92 "2019-10-04T02:39:38Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> I clock-out в семнадцать ноль-ноль, товарищ.

Spasibo

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/93 "2019-10-04T02:40:34Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> What’s there to reveal? DNC and Clinton campaign funneled millions of dollars to Russian operatives to collect dirt on Clinton’s political enemy. The return on their investment was so pathetic, that only Goebbels-like outlets like Buzzfeed and CNN decided to publish it, while even the hard-code leftist rag like NY Times refused to publish it.

Is this your way of referring to the Steele Dossier?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/94 "2019-10-04T02:40:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> We have people that will either defend whatever the fuck he does or says, and/or attack his political enemies at the drop of a hat…but those with the honesty to actually say they support him are very rare.

Thank you, **Annoyed** and **Northeast Refugee** , for being perfect examples.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/95 "2019-10-04T02:41:53Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> spasibo

Пожалуйста.

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/96 "2019-10-04T02:42:56Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Is this your way of referring to the Steele Dossier?

This is my way of referring to Clinton and DNC colluding with Russian officials and paying them millions of dollars to collect dirt on their political opponents.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/97 "2019-10-04T02:48:19Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> This is my way of referring to Clinton and DNC colluding with Russian officials and paying them millions of dollars to collect dirt on their political opponents.

Could you educate me with a cite?

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/98 "2019-10-04T02:51:01Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Could you educate me with a cite?

I dunno, something like this should help you out

> **[Opinion | The Clinton campaign sought dirt on Trump from Russian officials....](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-clinton-campaign-sought-dirt-on-trump-from-russian-officials-wheres-the-outrage/2018/08/02/dee4be12-9672-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html)**
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> Russia was playing both sides.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/99 "2019-10-04T02:51:46Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Could you educate me with a cite?

Or better yet, don’t let the hijack continue until the gutless wonders say if they support Trump or not.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/100 "2019-10-04T02:51:55Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Ah, so you’re ok with US Presidential candidate funneling millions of dollars for fake information about their political opponents from Russian operatives.
> 
> What in the holy fuck is wrong with you?? At what point did you decide that there is no difference between right and wrong?

Why would fake information cost so much? Seems like one could get the real thing for a lot less.

But what point are you trying to make? It’s seems like you are saying that actual President Trump gets an automatic free pass on wrongdoing if it can ever be proven Candidate Clinton did something prosecutable (which seems not to have happened quite yet). Is that correct?

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