# A simple question for Trump supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213 "2019-10-03T17:21:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/161 "2019-10-06T08:16:02Z")

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Add Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka and using Chinese steel instead of Pennsylvania steel to build Trump Tower to that list. Oh, and class action suits never resolved in Atlantic City during the Taj Mahal days. The guy is the absolute worst real-estate businessman in American history.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/162 "2019-10-06T09:03:35Z")

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“I’m either going slap you in the face or tear the fingers off your right hand-you decide.”  
“Since they are both things I don’t want, I’m just going refuse to pick one over the other.”

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/163 "2019-10-06T13:00:52Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> There is a longer list of stuff that would stop anyone’s aspirations to public office.  
> **- the scam that is “Trump University”**
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> - The thing with Ms. Daniels (others are already behind bars for this).
> - His remarks about his hot daughter.
> - His self-aggrandizing lies about 9/11.
> - The money he promised to 9/11 charities and never gave.  
> \<snip\>

Also re the emphasized part above, Trump bribed the Florida State DA to stop her investigations into Trump ‘University’. If that’s not bad enough, he used Trump Foundation money to do so. Not a bribe some will say :rolleyes: It’s still a violation of federal rules preventing foundations from donating to political candidates. But I guess that’s OK, because…

Republicans would be having cats if a Democrat did this. Hypocrisy is a republican way of life.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/164 "2019-10-06T13:04:24Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Add Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka and using Chinese steel instead of Pennsylvania steel to build Trump Tower to that list. Oh, and class action suits never resolved in Atlantic City during the Taj Mahal days. The guy is the absolute worst real-estate businessman in American history.

The list is a LOT longer than that. But we should probably stick to his outright criminal activity. Being a shitty business man is not illegal, although some of his deals most surely are.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/165 "2019-10-07T15:02:07Z")

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I’ve never supported Trump; I just didn’t want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/166 "2019-10-07T15:21:21Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Add Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka and using Chinese steel instead of Pennsylvania steel to build Trump Tower to that list. Oh, and class action suits never resolved in Atlantic City during the Taj Mahal days. The guy is the absolute worst real-estate businessman in American history.

Add throwing our long term allies the Kurds under the bus. In a move that even Lindsay Graham said:

“This impulsive decision by the president has undone all the gains we’ve made, thrown the region into further chaos,” he said, adding: “I hope I’m making myself clear how shortsighted and irresponsible this decision is in my view.”

That’s OK though? Screwing our allies, destabilizing the region and making the world a better place for ISIS is OK as long as Trump does it?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/167 "2019-10-07T15:23:49Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Trump bribed the Florida State DA to stop her investigations into Trump ‘University’.

Actually FL Attorney General Pam Bondi. The price was $25K, if you’re keeping score.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/168 "2019-10-07T15:24:11Z")

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Ha ha! Sure Trump just supported ISIS, but look how that triggered the snowflake libs! That’s all I care about!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/169 "2019-10-07T15:31:49Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Actually FL Attorney General Pam Bondi. The price was $25K, if you’re keeping score.

Thanks for the correction. I wonder how she feels about her price being less than that of a porn star?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/170 "2019-10-07T15:36:42Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> I’ve never supported Trump

If you voted for him, then hey, guess what?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/171 "2019-10-07T15:51:24Z")

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I think we had a thread or two near the beginning about what it would take for Trump supporters on this board to not support him any more. If anyone with better Google Fu than I can locate these threads it would be much appreciated…and by “much appreciated” I mean “the beer is on me the next time you are in Portland.”

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/172 "2019-10-07T16:23:33Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> I’ve never supported Trump; I just didn’t want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.

Yeah, those Kurdish snowflakes sure had that coming to them. Hysterical, indeed. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/173 "2019-10-07T16:31:40Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Yeah, those Kurdish snowflakes sure had that coming to them. Hysterical, indeed. :rolleyes:

They aren’t white, so fuck’em.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/174 "2019-10-07T16:51:04Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> > [@Northeast Refugee](#):
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> > No, my gotcha is the fact that Democrats colluded with Russia in order to collect political dirt on their opponents, paid them millions of dollars, and all they got in return was fake dossier, so laughably fake, even rags like NY Times refused to publish it.
> 
> Cite? Almost every syllable of your post seems like nonsense; I’m sincerely curious what craven site you concocted it from.
> 
> Don’t be shy. If the relevant Alex Jones YouTubes have been taken down, just say so.

Did **Northeast Troll** ever come up with anything? Is he waiting for instructions from the Kremlin before he responds?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/175 "2019-10-07T19:57:02Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> I’ve never supported Trump; I just didn’t want to see Hillary Clinton push her gun ban agenda. That said, trolling the butthurt snowflakes is hysterically funny.

Every Democrat president supposedly had a “gun ban agenda.” Nobody’s guns were taken away. Certain accessories were made illegal to sell, which impacted about a cunt hair’s worth of firearms owners. What makes you think Hilary could have rounded up the guns? Really, I’d like to know.

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/176 "2019-10-07T20:19:26Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> What’s there to reveal? DNC and Clinton campaign funneled millions of dollars to Russian operatives to collect dirt on Clinton’s political enemy. The return on their investment was so pathetic, that only Goebbels-like outlets like Buzzfeed and CNN decided to publish it, while even the hard-code leftist rag like NY Times refused to publish it.

Very interesting. Could you please cite your source(s) for this story?

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**Author:** ![Northeast\_Refugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a183cd/32.png) [@Northeast\_Refugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northeast_Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/177 "2019-10-07T20:38:22Z")

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> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> Very interesting. Could you please cite your source(s) for this story?

Sure, here ya go, buddy

> **[Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html)**
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> Fusion GPS was hired by a Democratic lawyer acting on behalf of campaign and committee.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/178 "2019-10-07T21:26:06Z")

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> [@Northeast\_Refugee](#):
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> Sure, here ya go, buddy
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html)

Sorry, nope. From 3 months later:

> [@](#):
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> **For its investigation into Trump, Fusion was initially hired in the fall of 2015 by the conservative Washington Free Beacon website. The publication is backed by billionaire GOP donor Paul Singer, who was then supporting Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) in the GOP primary.**
> 
> The Post revealed in October that Fusion was paid, via a law firm, by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee for its work on the dossier.

> **[‘Journalism for rent’: Inside the secretive firm behind the Trump dossier](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/journalism-for-rent-inside-the-secretive-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/2017/12/11/8d5428d4-bd89-11e7-af84-d3e2ee4b2af1_story.html)**
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> Internal documents reveal how Fusion GPS has used investigative reporting techniques and media connections to advance the interests of an eclectic range of clients.

If you’re capable of quoting WaPo from October, 2017, surely you’re capable of reading the correction made 2 months later?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/179 "2019-10-07T22:07:50Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Every Democrat president supposedly had a “gun ban agenda.”

Pretty much, yeah.

> [@](#):
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> Nobody’s guns were taken away.

Because gun owners have militantly fought tooth and nail to prevent it.

> [@](#):
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> Certain accessories were made illegal to sell, which impacted about a cunt hair’s worth of firearms owners.

See above.

> [@](#):
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> What makes you think Hilary could have rounded up the guns? Really, I’d like to know.

Could have? Perhaps not (see above again). Would have if it were possible? Damn right.

My position? Don’t blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question-for-trump-supporters/841213/180 "2019-10-07T22:31:52Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> … My position? Don’t blame me for anything Trump has done; this is what you pushed us to.

This is why many of us regard Trump voters as … [checks forum] … despicably asinine jackasses.

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