# A Simple Question?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 26, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808 "2005-08-26T23:31:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![inkubo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@inkubo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkubo)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/1 "2005-08-26T23:31:12Z")

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I ask a simple question in IMHO, which seems to be a mere step above MPSIMS in earth-shattering topics, and the SUV owners seem so testy. Here’s to your rusting Detroit iron and wasteful ways. 😛

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/2 "2005-08-26T23:44:19Z")

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Sorry, but your stay at the SDMB will be happier if you accept that even (or perhaps especially) the most indefensible of actions/ideas/groups have ardent defenders here.

In particular, I’ve seen it remarked that people are _more_ likely to post a response if they disagree with the OP. (So the person commenting was commenting on **Sentient Meat** ’s Political Compass threads in GD, not threads in IMHO. The principle still applies.)

Automotive topics are one of many of our hot button topics. That said, I’d be much happier if all those SUVs vanished–though not if they were replaced by MiniVans, Pick-ups and other large view blocking vehicles. I drive a Saturn.

PS. There’s no such thing as a simple question.

PPS. Would you have been happier if no one had bothered to respond to your post?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/3 "2005-08-26T23:57:35Z")

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> [@Eureka](#):
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> PS. There’s no such thing as a simple question.

Ain’t that the truth!

Also, never assume everyone will know what you mean when you say anything.

Example: In one thread I made a reference to the “old” Tonight Show meaning the one with Johnny Carson. A couple of posters came along and mentioned the Jack Paar and Steve Allen versions.

Even if you specify something in your OP, don’t be surprised if some posters don’t read/care/comprehend.

Example: In an old CS thread, I asked about songs that mentioned specific times of the day in their titles and got responses with “morning” as responses.

Bottom line: don’t let it bug you. If you do, you’ll end up getting banned over the stupidest things and you’ll make the baby Og cry.

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/4 "2005-08-27T00:14:31Z")

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Perhaps it’s because there is a certain group of dopers who adopt a holier-than-thou attitude about their small vehicles and choose to cast aspersions at and make foolish generalizations about others. I drive a van. It’s large. I can’t carry my tools in a Mini-Cooper. Those who don’t like that are cordially invited to kiss my ass. 😛

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/5 "2005-08-27T00:44:17Z")

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> [@inkubo](#):
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> I ask a simple question in IMHO, which seems to be a mere step above MPSIMS in earth-shattering topics, and the SUV owners seem so testy. Here’s to your rusting Detroit iron and wasteful ways. 😛

Gee, could it be because you supposedly asked for honest responses, and when some came back that you didn’t agree with you responded with:

> [@inkubo](#):
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> Hah, it’s people like you that show me that the economy isn’t doing that bad if you can afford such a leviathan and its upkeep! Last week I saw four SUVs tanking up at a Conoco (usually they have the most expensive gas compared to everyone else, even for regular). Either they don’t know better or just don’t care about the price. Most likely it’s the latter since I like to believe people are smart enough to shop around.

If your intent was to bitch about SUV owners, you should have been more honest and done so here in The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/6 "2005-08-27T00:58:39Z")

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Here’s a [linkubo](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=331868) for you, **inkubo**.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/7 "2005-08-27T02:21:04Z")

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I posted to that thread and I didn’t think that anyone was “testy”. You asked a group of people that already have an SUV whether they are willing to make a substantial life change based on the cost of gas alone. That most said no shouldn’t come as a surprise at all. Some of us even explained why it wouldn’t work out economically in many cases.

How about posting this one" “Northerners, are you considering selling your house and moving now that the price of heating oil is going up?”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/8 "2005-08-27T04:58:56Z")

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Hot-button topics here on the Dope:

- SUVs
- Driving speed in the left lane
- Guns
- Taking your shoes off in the house
- Dubya
- Kirk vs. Picard
- Mac vs. PC
- Weight
- Capitalism
- Circumcision

Start or participate in a thread about any of these topics at your own peril. (I’m currently participating in a thread about weight, and I don’t know why. I do know better.)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/9 "2005-08-27T05:13:44Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Hot-button topics here on the Dope:
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> - SUVs
> - Driving speed in the left lane
> - Guns
> - Taking your shoes off in the house
> - Dubya
> - Kirk vs. Picard
> - Mac vs. PC
> - Weight
> - Capitalism
> - Circumcision

You fucking Canuck bitch, you take back what you said about ALL those topics or I will…I will…I don’t know WHAT I will do because it would be so bad I don’t want to think about it! 😉

> [@Eureka](#):
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> PPS. Would you have been happier if no one had bothered to respond to your post?

Ah, therein lies the rub, don’t it? We are, as a group, trying to dance as close as we can to the line between “Making conversation” and “Attention whoring” that the only thing worse than a thread in which we are disagreed with is one that is ignored.

(FTR: prefer lower cars, I drive as close to the speed limit as I can but move over for a faster driver if there is some place I can move over to safely but screw him otherwise, I like them but think there should be some control on their purchase and use, I go either way, I dislike him, Picard, PC but Macs are fun, I could stand to lose quite a bit but don’t like being reminded by others, it has its good and bad points, and I have daughters so I never had to decide but I prefer being cut myself. 😃 )

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/10 "2005-08-27T05:21:40Z")

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Well, it’s all on the record now, you American asshole. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/11 "2005-08-27T05:23:11Z")

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Enterprise vs. Star Destroyer isn’t on the list?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/12 "2005-08-27T05:28:48Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Well, it’s all on the record now, you American asshole. 😃

Yeah, baby, and you see how controversial those positions are! 😃

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/13 "2005-08-27T05:29:57Z")

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Oh, and Defiant was designed as a Borg killer so Enterprise is obviously toast.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/14 "2005-08-27T05:34:27Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Well, it’s all on the record now, you American asshole. 😃

**dropzone** is really [Stevie Stilleto](http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE57A1FDD46A87F20D79C3053CBBB72E00DDB51F8813E23454D92BB345C910E7ED749A0DAB0B8B67DAB7BA8E02CA45A0A9FCBE455F5D662342DFC93&sql=10:yvdkyl3oxpbb)? Damn! How you been dude? I miss those days hangin’ out at Einstein-A-Go-Go…

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/15 "2005-08-27T05:37:56Z")

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If I were do you think I’d’ve come up with this lame-ass user name?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/16 "2005-08-27T17:30:37Z")

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Oh, I thought of some more:

- Calling citizens of the United States “United Statesians”
- Vegetarianism

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/17 "2005-08-27T18:38:09Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Oh, I thought of some more:
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> - Calling citizens of the United States “United Statesians”
> - Vegetarianism

And cats. Don’t forget cats.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/18 "2005-08-27T18:56:06Z")

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Especially cats, declawing of.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/19 "2005-08-27T18:58:26Z")

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> [@Mama Tiger](#):
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> Especially cats, declawing of.

And cats, shooting of.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-simple-question/318808/20 "2005-08-27T19:22:39Z")

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This is more like a MPSIMS thread than a pit thread.

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