# A Sloppy Joe question

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [November 26, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786 "2024-11-26T02:51:08Z")\
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[Like a runza.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza)

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Any thing like a meat in pastry have been around since forever.  
Hand pies  
Pasties  
Turnovers.

Even a biscuit sandwich of today.

Seems humans been wanting take out forever.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/23 "2024-11-27T00:03:02Z")

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Runza was the first thing I thought of when I saw the OP. It really sounds like what they want is something like a runza, but with sloppy joe filling.

Possibly pertinent to the OP’s question, how do they get the filling into a runza? Do they hollow out a bun and fill it, or do they wrap the filling in raw dough and bake it? @Disinfectus’s anecdote makes it sound like the latter.

Random musing: Are Hot Pockets essentially just runzas with non-traditional fillings? I don’t think I’ve had a Hot Pocket since college, so I don’t remember what the crust was like. Maybe more like a calzone. But I guess (Like @Beckdawrek posted while I was composing this post) runzas, calzones, Hot Pockets, etc. are all the same general kind of thing even if they go by different names.

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve had a Hot Pocket since college, so I don’t remember what the crust was like. Maybe more like a calzone.

Probably closer to a calzone. Different Hot Pocket varieties do have different crusts, but the ones I used to eat were usually some sort of a pastry crust, rather than bread-y.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/25 "2024-11-27T00:11:40Z")

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I believe I’ve seen a sloppy Joe hotpocket.  
Seems familiar.

Well, you got,  
Burritos  
Tacos  
Uncrustables  
Steak and kidney pie.  
Pizza rolls.

Yep, meat encrusted in a dough or bread of some sort has been around.

No reason you can’t make your own version.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/26 "2024-11-27T00:51:37Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Any thing like a meat in pastry have been around since forever.

Nobody claimed otherwise.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/27 "2024-11-27T00:53:42Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> IMHO, the carb used for this process must be able to absorb a good amount of juice, or then you have an extra-sloppy joe.

That’s what I’m wondering about; how long before it soaks through? Or do you make the sloppy joe mix less “wet”?

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/28 "2024-11-27T01:06:23Z")

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I never said anyone claimed it.

I meant, meat in pastry or bread is not a new concept, by no means.  
And the OP should try it.

Yes, meat juices gonna soak through.

I wouldn’t let that deter me.

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Does anybody bake bread wherein the dough is formed around heated tubes so the crust is on the inside? If not, I know my next invention.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/30 "2024-11-27T01:32:05Z")

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That’s not a sloppy Joe.

> **[Sloppy joe (New Jersey)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloppy_joe_(New_Jersey))**
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> Throughout most of northern New Jersey, a sloppy joe is a cold delicatessen sandwich. There are minor variations depending on the deli, but it is always a double-decker thin sliced rye bread sandwich made with one or more types of sliced deli meat, such as turkey, ham, pastrami, corned beef, roast beef, or sliced beef tongue, along with coleslaw, Russian dressing, and sometimes Swiss cheese.
> Turkey is considered the standard meat, usually with corned beef and roast beef. Some delis that offer th...

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-sloppy-joe-question/1010786/31 "2024-11-27T01:36:55Z")

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Not if I do it first.  
I’ll give you pittance if it goes viral.

(I do believe there are aluminum cones to make èclair pastry or something. Could be used off label.)

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> > [@beowulff](#):
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> > And make a Sloppy Joe Bao?
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> Baked bao might work better than steamed here.

Mmmmm, my favorite bao buns ever were steamed ones filled with barbecued brisket, then left to warm on a hot plate until the bottoms were crispy. Would totally work with a sloppy joe mix.

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> At camp they’re knows as **Neat Josephs**.

We used to have these in school, but someone called them “messy joes” and some people called them “manwiches”, but there used to be a canned sauce called “manwich” which I haven’t seen for years. I guess its another form of the loose-meat (aka Maid Rites) sandwich with bbq sauce.  
eta- they still make “manwich” sauce

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I like Meat Pies. Sams Club used to sell them frozen. They were rectangles, about 4 inches wide and 6 in long. Perfect hand size. IIRC they took about 45 min to bake.

This is similar. You could use sloppy joe filling. I like hand-sized food that I can eat on the go.

> **[Ground Beef and Cheddar Meat Pies - The Seasoned Mom](https://www.theseasonedmom.com/meat-pies/)**
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> These easy meat pies include flaky pastry wrapped around a flavorful ground beef, cheddar, and caramelized onion filling!

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Manwich is still a thing. Grandkids love it.

Too much sugar for me.

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Well, you got,  
> Burritos  
> Tacos  
> Uncrustables  
> Steak and kidney pie.  
> Pizza rolls.

[Empanadas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empanada)

[Papusas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupusa) although these are in a cornmeal jacket.

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You mean how a jelly donut is filled, except using an un-sliced bun and sloppy joe meat?

I don’t see why not, except that you’d probably have to bake a more open-crumb bun for it to work best. Otherwise you’d risk blowing the bun out.

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Grr…

Here I am in Texas, wanting to go visit Nebraska again just for a Runza.

Mark my words, if I ever strike it rich, I’ll be that asshole you read about flying his private jet into some small town just to have Runzas for lunch. Those things are delicious!

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Is injecting the meat mix into an enclosed space just to avoid the “sloppy” part?

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I have a feeling it will result in a much sloppier Joe.

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