# A Slut And Proud Of It!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 1999, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492 "1999-10-29T07:42:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 1999, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/21 "1999-10-29T20:03:00Z")

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> ## I’ve always had a problem with this definition. Those are her vows, not mine. I mean, if you’re a vegitarian, does that mean that I can’t eat meat?
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> I nominate this as the stupid analogy of the month.

Perhaps it’s not the same thing, but it is a valid point. If you’re married, that’s **your** vow to G\*d and your spouse. It has nothing to do with me.

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“Some drink at the fountain of knowledge…others just gargle.”  
-Anon

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**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 1999, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/22 "1999-10-29T20:49:00Z")

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**CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP**  
(Standing ovation for Omniscient)

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The IQ of a group is equal to the IQ of the dumbest member divided by the number of people in the group.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 1999, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/23 "1999-10-29T21:04:00Z")

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Thanks, I was beginning to think I was talking to my armpit here.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 1999, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/24 "1999-10-29T21:14:00Z")

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Handy wrote:

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> Most sluts I know or knew, usually get cervical cancer or a hysterectomy later in life from all that ‘partying…’ IE: Sex with too many partners or sex too young.

Whoa there, that sounds like the seeds of an Urban Legend there.

Have there been any studies done that showed a correlation between cervical cancer/necessary hysterectomy and sexusl frequency/age of becoming sexually actice?

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Quick-N-Dirty Aviation: Trading altitude for airspeed since 1992.

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**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 1999, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/25 "1999-10-29T21:39:00Z")

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OK, so the married person who cheats is a lying, betraying, vow breaking Slut.

It’s just bad form to cheat folks. If you aren’t happy in your marriage, try to find out what has gone wrong, and try to make it better, if you can’t or don’t care enough to do that then get a divorce before you play dip the weenie. Infidelity HURTS ! Try going to [marriagebuilders.com](http://marriagebuilders.com) to the infidelity section of that message board and read.

It will open your eyes to the pain felt by both spouse’s .

And check out “The other woman” to find out how the other women and yes the other men in  
these relationships hurt.

Sorry I haven’t figured out how to do the url thing here yet, use a search engine if you want to see.

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Ayesha - Lioness

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You sound reasonable. Must be time to up my medication.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 1999, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/26 "1999-10-29T22:24:00Z")

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Jazzmine writeth …

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> Hey wait. Did Eutychus55 really write that? The little I’ve seen him post, I’ve always thought of him as Uncle Eutychus55. _eyeing him in a new, slightly predatory light_

Uncles need love too. 😉

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Saint Eutychus  
[www.disneyshorts.org](http://www.disneyshorts.org)

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**Author:** ![jazzmine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jazzmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jazzmine)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/27 "1999-10-30T00:11:00Z")

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Ohhhhhh Uncle Eutychus…c’mere

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/28 "1999-10-30T00:52:00Z")

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I’m here!

(That is, until Lynn kicks the two of us out of here for not flaming each other.)

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Saint Eutychus  
[www.disneyshorts.org](http://www.disneyshorts.org)

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**Author:** ![jazzmine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jazzmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jazzmine)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/29 "1999-10-30T01:00:00Z")

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Maybe if we call her Auntie Lynn, she’ll let us stay?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/30 "1999-10-30T01:29:00Z")

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_Somebody’s_ using the wrong definition of flame! 😉

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**Author:** ![Cessandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cessandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cessandra)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/31 "1999-10-30T01:32:00Z")

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Wow, I was totally afraid to even read this – I was sure I was going to get flamed off my ass!  
Let me just clarify one thing: I have slept with a total of three men in my life. All three were one-nighters (except the one that kept hounding me and is now my fiancé). However, I was labeled a slut in high school before I even lost my virginity. Why? Because I wanted to date around and not get tied down too soon. (Ironic, isn’t it?)  
Omni, I fail to see how a woman’s sexual role can be equated to being generally less strong than a man. What do youmen exactly? That it is in a woman’s physiology to. . . what? Be on bottom? Lay there and take it? Wait for a man to make all the first moves? Only have monogomous relationships?  
Now, if you are saying that I should realize that if I date around I will be called a slut because thats just how society is, well, fine. I was one of the first girls in my class to take “slut” as a compliment (meant I could get guys that they couldn’t!) But that is not a part of my anatomy. Thats society, and society can change. And I think it should. Why shouldn’t it be acceptable for women to date as many people as they want, and sleep with them, too?  
What exactly are you saying?

Beeruser & Eutychus55 – sorry, I don’t do that anymore; I’m totally loyal to my love. But feel free to fantasize about it! 😉

Slythe – It can be!

As for the rest of you, I think for the most part, what you say rings true. If I considered “slut” an insult these days, i wouldn’t apply it to a girl just for liking to have sex or dating around. It would have to be someone who in some way hurts people with her sexual escapades.

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**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/32 "1999-10-30T01:39:00Z")

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! Tulsa ! Tulsa ! Tulsa !  
Proud to be from Oklahoma!

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**Author:** ![Konrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Konrad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Konrad)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/33 "1999-10-30T01:40:00Z")

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Like Omniscient sez, it’s a double standard, so what?

You’re not going to change a million years of evolution by saying it’s unfair.

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**Author:** ![Cessandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cessandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cessandra)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/34 "1999-10-30T01:57:00Z")

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What I want to know, is what the hell does evolution have to do with it?

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**Author:** ![Valerieblaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Valerieblaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valerieblaise)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/35 "1999-10-30T02:19:00Z")

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I’ve got a couple of things to comment on here. For one, I have nothing to flame Cessandra about. To me it sounds like she has a healthy attitude toward her sexuality, which is a lot more than you can say for a lot of 18 or 19 year olds (including me at that age).

Fantastic User said

[quote My idea of a slut would be a woman that has sex with a man who she knows is married to someone else. As not to sound sexist, a man can be a slut too if he knowingly has sex with a married woman./]

I think that is REALLY ridiculous. The married person is breaking vows they’ve made. Calling the other man/woman a slut is ignorant, and it’s the kind of thing people to do avoid being mad at their spouse. Screw that. If you’ve been cheated on, there is only ONE person to blame, and that’s the man/woman that promised to be loyal to you and didn’t. The other person isn’t an innocent party, but to focus your anger on them is just a way to avoid confronting the person that betrayed you.  
PS - this is my first attempt at quoting, so if I screwed it up, I apologize

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**Author:** ![Cessandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cessandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cessandra)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/36 "1999-10-30T02:35:00Z")

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Valerieblaise – I think you did fine for your first post. Very ambitious to start in the Pit, I think.

For the most part, I think you’re right. If my love cheated on me, it would be him that I was angry with.  
However, I woudn’t let the girl totally off the hook. It takes two to tango, and (like I tell my friend who tends to get caught up with married men) it’s just wrong to sleep with somebody else’s man.  
Of course, if the girl in question was somebody I knew – somebody that was supposed to be my friend – I would be just as POd at her as at Carl.

PS How does **everybody** know how old I am? Have you just read enough of my posts, or is it obvious? Do I have a sign that says “Kick me; I’m only 18” on my back? 🙂  
(Let me throw in an extra 🙂 just to show that I’m kidding!)

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Cessandra

[My Homepage](http://www.shsu.edu/~stdmed17/Home.html)  
[The RHPS: Website For Virgins](http://www.shsu.edu/~stdmed17/RockyHome.html)  
**Both Updated More Often Than This Sig**

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**Author:** ![Cessandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cessandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cessandra)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/37 "1999-10-30T02:38:00Z")

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PPS I think it applies just the same in the reverse – it’s wrong (very wrong!) to sleep with somebody else’s woman, but the cheating wife should hold most of the blame.

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**Author:** ![Boris\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@Boris\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boris_B)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/38 "1999-10-30T02:58:00Z")

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Here is a link for **tracer** and other folks concerned about cervical cancer:  
[http://www.mcare.org/healthtips/homecare/cervical.htm](http://www.mcare.org/healthtips/homecare/cervical.htm)

It doesn’t have any original data, but the information looks pretty clear.

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Nothing I write about any person or group should be applied to a larger group.

- Boris Badenov

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/39 "1999-10-30T04:00:00Z")

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Well, this ain’t this a fine howdy-do: mental and moral whiplash right in my own very own aching skull…

OOOOHHH-kay, the following is a personal statement and is no way to be interpreted as a judgment, condemnation or sneaky sidways “down” on anybody else…so chill, already…

I’ve always viewed “slut” as completely equal-opportunity. To wit, men are just as responsible for their sexuality and hormones as women. Does this strike no one else? Am I the only antique, romantic poop around? Men and women both have horomones and urges and raging impulses. (Men–you DID know this, right?) Men, or women, who assume that testosterone equates urgency is, well, let’s just, sadly deluded.

So we’re have those animal urges. The ol’ randy guy mating call of “LUUUV them round heeled field matresses!” somehow fails to impress me. So as a howlin’, prowlin’ bag of ambulatory glands you got your thrill on Blueberry Hill. You–as a guy–have a nostalgic glow for that long ago slut and you–as a girl–remember some racy, urgent coupling that was more memorable for the daring than the act.

Well, I’m a true radical. The most potent sexual organ is the brain, and the sweaty thrill of surreptitiously gringing groins palls compared to being picky, thoughtful and full of intention. For men AND women.

Referring back to a related thread, the worst sexual judgment I can think of (male or female) is “anybody’s”. Yeah, anybody can  
get nekkid and do the horizontal hula. Glands rejoice. Minks do it, vibrators will do it, and so will an amazing array of rubber goods.

Maybe that’s “settling for” and enjoying what’s on offer. No put down–but not a whole lot of respect either. It’s—glands. It ain’t nuthin’ mink, ferrets and rabbits (and probably tapeworms) don’t do.

But men can be sluts just as much as as women can. And–strictly my opinion–while sluttiness isn’t a disgrace, it’s nothing to brag about either. It’s just biology. Big whoop. What is sexier, and more potent, and more lasting is pickiness.

Speaking purely as a woman (vomit in unison, folks!) why in the wide, wide world of cheap choices should I get my hormones in an uproar over some male who has less control over his heart, brain and sexuality than I do? Why should I want “anybody’s”?

Control is sexy. Thought, deliberation and applied intention is sexy. When the body is separated from the the rest of the human critter, that’s sluttiness, for men and women. No fault, but no applause either.

Shrug.  
Veb

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 1999, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-slut-and-proud-of-it/3492/40 "1999-10-30T08:33:00Z")

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Whenever I have heard the term slut, all I can think of is some jealous teenage girl who fucked the captain of the football team and was then jealous of some “slut” who’s personality actually attracted the guy who she had to fuck to get his affections. On the topic of the ultimate teenage fantasy about a slut, I personally do not fantasize about some blonde-haired chick to come up to me and ask to have sex. I usually find myself fantasizing much more about girls I have known in the order of two or three weeks and considered “cute”.

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You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right.

–Lyndon B. Johnson

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