# A somewhat disturbing link...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 21, 2001, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856 "2001-03-21T14:31:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/1 "2001-03-21T14:31:11Z")

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I found [this](http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/6914/ABOUT_ME_PAGE_1.html) link on another page, and it’s freaked me out a bit more than anything I’ve encountered in a few days, which says something considering the kinds of sites I frequent.

I’ve heard that some people have actually done this. Although I’m one of those ‘whatever turns ya on’ kind of guys, I think more should be done to stop this. At least make sure that none of my tax dollars go to them because of it.

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**Author:** ![mikey07005](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@mikey07005](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikey07005)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/2 "2001-03-21T15:07:06Z")

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Woah, Woah, and mega Woah… What kind of sicko is this girl… hrmm i think its more of a elaborate spoof that some lonely weirdo has thought up… If this is a true wish of this girl, I only hope she does not decide she was incorrect in her desire to be the “armless wonder”

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/3 "2001-03-21T15:27:01Z")

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Yes, it’s a bona fide fetish/lifestyle. The desire to be an amputee is called apotemnophilia. I’ve seen a few documentaries on it and the brilliant British magazine Bizarre has run a few interesting and fairly in-depth articles on it. Here are the [Google](http://www.google.com/search?q=apotemnophilia) and [Altavista](http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q=apotemnophilia&kl=XX&pg=q&Translate=on) search results on it - there are thousands of sites devoted to apotemnophilia. It’s really quite widespread.

Obviously, it’s controversial topic and the first rection is usually “Noooooooo way! That’s mentalist behaviour!” but a little research reveals that there are many perfectly rational people who hold these desires, for a wide variety of reasons. And of course, there’s a few mentalists as well. But isn’t there everywhere?

Fran

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**Author:** ![Sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/4 "2001-03-21T15:30:48Z")

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It’s hard to tell if this particular site is spoofing or not, but I do know there are people who are sexually gratified by cutting off a limb or limbs. Remember a while back we had some thread about felching that had a link to a dictionary of all kinds of weird sexual fetishes? The name for it was in there.  
All I can say about this girl is…weird, weird, weird! I wonder what kind of “accident” she is planning for herself? The whole idea gives me the creeps. And does her “fiancee” support this?

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/5 "2001-03-21T18:11:25Z")

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This topic was discussed a few months ago in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=51200)

I have no doubt that this girl is deadly serious. What I can’t decide is which is more disturbing---- her before and “after” pics or what thoughts are going through her head as she makes preparations to cause her arms to be not merely amputated but done in such a way as to prevent the reattachment of same.

🤔 let’s see maybe I could chop 'em off. Now I’d have to get someone to help cause once I’ve chopped off one, I wouldn’t _be able_ to chop off the other 'cause I would only have one arm. Yess Only One More To Go. Who can I get to help and what would make them unable to be reattached–maybe I could get them eaten by rabid mongrels,…no that might hurt…crushing yes, if they are crushed…

:shudder: ew, ew. ewwwwww.

The only thing I’m certain of is that she sounds determined enough to make her dream come true ie:

> [@](#):
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> I HONESTLY DO WANT TO LIVE THE REST OF MY LIFE AS A REAL DBE AMPUTEE WHO WEARS BEAUTIFUL TWIN BODY-POWERED PROSTHESES WITH DORRANCE #5X STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS! MY NEW LIFE WITHOUT MY HANDS IS AWAITING ME!!

God help her.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/6 "2001-03-21T18:35:05Z")

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Unless this gal has a job with _excellent_ benefits, her desire to become a DBE will be a very expensive undertaking. Also, if she plans on collecting insurance based on her ‘accident’, her website is very incriminating.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/7 "2001-03-21T18:53:43Z")

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I suggest that she just wear really tight mittens.

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/8 "2001-03-21T20:06:06Z")

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Whoa, does that woman own the “DORRANCE #5X STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS” manufacturing company or something? The name is repeated about a zillion times - it’s like some kind of warped advertisement.

If not, I feel very sad for her. I hope she’s getting professional help. Has she considered how painful this “accident” is going to be? Is that what is drawing her to it in the first place?

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**Author:** ![moodtobestewed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ab097/32.png) [@moodtobestewed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moodtobestewed)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/9 "2001-03-21T20:09:29Z")

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Leave it to the The Smoking Gun to have a police report about someone who successfully fulfilled his dreams:

[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rollo1.shtml](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rollo1.shtml)

Read this equally disturbing police report… for a good laugh:

[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/icehouse1.shtml](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/icehouse1.shtml)

There’s always something interesting on The Smoking Gun… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/10 "2001-03-21T20:12:07Z")

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missbunny, IANAP (psychologist/psychiatrist), but I’d go along the lines as a cry for attention. IMO, I think she’s noticed how much she herself has paid attention to ABE’s, and wants that same attention directed towards herself.

But then again, she may just be trying to get the corporate name out - DORRANCE #5X STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/11 "2001-03-21T20:49:36Z")

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I went through the pictures she had up on the site with this song that kept going through my head:  
Like Pam, if I could be like Pam (be like Pam)  
Like Pam, I’d give up arms and hands (be like Pam)  
Like Pam, oh if I could be like Paaaaaam  
And I love the quote from Melanie. “Driving has given me back a sense of confidence.” This, of course, would imply that having an amputation in and of itself probably isn’t the best of confidence builders.

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/12 "2001-03-21T22:23:33Z")

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So, the guy in the link provided by **moodtobestewed** believes that being an amputee will “enhance his masculinity.” Well. Not that amputees can’t be wildly masculine and good-looking; and even if I think something is weird, my opinion is that what consenting adults want to do amongst themselves is just fine; and I can understand how some people might get fetishistically turned on by persons who are amputees, but _to cut off your own limbs because you think it will be fun_ is, to put it extremely nicely, really really odd.

I hope no one takes offense. This is only my opinion. You are free to think I’m a weirdo too.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2001, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/13 "2001-03-21T22:27:13Z")

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I just hope to god that she hasn’t seen any of the Evil Dead Movies. Do I hear a chainsaw?

I know I’m goin straight to hell on a greased pole for that one.

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**Author:** ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/14 "2001-03-22T02:47:49Z")

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What a frikin moron.

I guess she isnt a big fan of masturbation, wiping her ass, giving a hand job etc.

I hope she doesnt have kids, because if she doesnt skewer them trying to care for them, she might chop stuff off them for fun.

Maybe she will cut her head off instead - lets hope.

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**Author:** ![Rosebud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rosebud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rosebud)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/15 "2001-03-22T05:15:12Z")

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Anybody here ever read _Geek Love_? Guy born limbless to carnival parents who are deliberatly cultivating kids for side shows becomes a sort of religious cult figure, has followers getting their limbs amputated bit by bit so they can be like him.

I thought it was just a really dark, strange subplot for a book, until a friend of mine said, “No, there are really people like that.”

I have to wonder if she’s _really_ considered the difference between having arms and not having them, assuming this particular site is for real. Like JuanitaTech said, she’s incriminating herself if she’s for real. If she’s _not_ for real, I could see finding this funny in a really, really dark way-- sort of like the kinds of jokes that will sometimes pop up in the “Things You Shouldn’t Laugh At” threads. Gotta admit, the constant mention of DORRANCE #5X STAINLESS STEEL HOOKS makes me think it’s a joke. It’s making me think of the “Boy Without a Body” pseudo-glurge (which, by the way, was briefly assumed to be real by a friend of mine-- what, the burlap sack for a body didn’t give it away?!).

Great song, **Ender** 🙂

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/16 "2001-03-22T09:27:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kellibelli \*  
> \*\*What a frikin moron.  
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> I hope she doesnt have kids, because if she doesnt skewer them trying to care for them, she might chop stuff off them for fun.
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> Maybe she will cut her head off instead - lets hope. \*\*

I understand if you think that she may not be psychologically up to the task of raising children given that you clearly consider her to be mentally unwell, but my reading of the above quote is that you consider that the loss of a limb will render her less able to perform parently duties. I’m sorry, but whatever your views on this particular person, this is a stupid thing to say. Amputees can’t look after their kids? The loss of a limb renders you less of a parent? Some amputees go _rock climbing_ FFS. Many lead full, active lives that include working, family and yes, sex.

Yeah - let’s hope she cuts off her head instead of finding happiness or the help she needs! I do have a sense of humour, but sheesh.

Fran

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/17 "2001-03-22T12:53:52Z")

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Francesca,

Try this on for size- People who voluntarily cut off their healthy limbs shouldn’t raise children.  
Sheeesh!

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/18 "2001-03-22T13:37:05Z")

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Well of course not and i did say that. This particular woman does seem a bit unhinged to me and yes, i would be a little worried if she was raising children.

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> I understand if you think that she may not be psychologically up to the task of raising children given that you clearly consider her to be mentally unwell,

It was the implication that the reason she wouldn’t be an able parent because she would be an amputee that i was taking issue with. The reason i thought this was implied was because kellibelli said

> [@](#):
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> I guess she isnt a big fan of masturbation, wiping her ass, giving a hand job etc.

By listing the things she wouldn’t be able to do (actually, she would, but that’s besides the point) and then going on to say she hopes she doesn’t have children, the two things looked linked to me. I may be wrong and i _know_ i’m taking this too seriously, but it made me cross.

Fran

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**Author:** ![Alonist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Alonist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alonist)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/19 "2001-03-22T15:21:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by The Mermaid \*  
> \*\*I know I’m goin straight to hell on a greased pole for that one. \*\*

I have no plans to amputate my pole…wanna grease it?

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-disturbing-link/58856/20 "2001-03-22T15:26:30Z")

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Are you saying you’ve got a burning in your crotch or that it only seems like hell?

Slightly off topic–do you know what I heard hand lotion called recently? Jerk sauce. 😃

:rim shot:

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