# A somewhat negative (Daily Mail) spin on a highly positive spin (eulogy) on a dead dude **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 21, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-negative-daily-mail-spin-on-a-highly-positive-spin-eulogy-on-a-dead-dude/644711 "2012-12-21T05:41:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-negative-daily-mail-spin-on-a-highly-positive-spin-eulogy-on-a-dead-dude/644711/1 "2012-12-21T05:41:04Z")
This was published eleven days ago, I am bringing it up in another thread but thought a wider audience (cause the other thread is potentially depressing so probably won’t be looked at much) may appreciate it. > [@Article begins](#): > > A humanist celebrant stunned mourners as they attended the funeral of a father who died in a car crash with a eulogy detailing his life of crime. > > Martin Wilson, 26, was killed alongside his friend James Morgan, 20, after the car they were in lost control and ploughed into a garden on November 18. > > Hundreds of family and friends attended Martin’s funeral last week but were left speechless when Donna Lear, who led the service, outlined his catalogue of crimes. Far more here: [Celebrant delivers bizarre eulogy at father's funeral detailing his life of crime | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245908/Celebrant-delivers-bizarre-eulogy-fathers-funeral-detailing-life-crime.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@Mister\_Owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Owl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-negative-daily-mail-spin-on-a-highly-positive-spin-eulogy-on-a-dead-dude/644711/2 "2012-12-21T05:57:38Z")
And? ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-negative-daily-mail-spin-on-a-highly-positive-spin-eulogy-on-a-dead-dude/644711/3 "2012-12-21T06:13:09Z")
> [@Mister\_Owl](#): > > And? It’s a story that posters and lurkers at this message board may conceivably appreciate. Amongst composers, there was only one Beethoven. Beethoven wrote nine symphonies. The ninth symphony contains four movements. There’s only one ninth symphony, fourth movement by Beethoven in the world. The best piece of music ever, to anyone objective like me. Is this thread that? No, of course not. But I wasn’t setting out for that, I was just out to share a humerous article. This is more like, I dunno, one of the eagles songs that no one can remember. Still a hell of a lot better than most people can do and a totally positive contribution to humanity, dude. ---
**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-negative-daily-mail-spin-on-a-highly-positive-spin-eulogy-on-a-dead-dude/644711/4 "2012-12-21T13:53:46Z")
Sounds a bit “Speaker for the Dead”, I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-somewhat-negative-daily-mail-spin-on-a-highly-positive-spin-eulogy-on-a-dead-dude/644711/5 "2012-12-21T17:06:13Z")
I was shocked at the concept, but when I read the article this quote from one of the mourners says it all “Wils was a lad, rough around the edges but anything other than a warts and all eulogy wouldn’t have done him justice, he would have been p\*\*\*\*\*\* himself from heaven when he heard it.” It reminds me of the eulogies by the surviving Pythons at Graham Chapman’s funeral. Since the mourners understood the context, I think it’s a much better eulogy than the bland generic one my grandfather got. The rabbi did not know him before the Alzheimer’s took over, and had very little specific to say. ☹ Rest well, Willis. Your friends miss you, and the person you would have grown to be.