# A song part that either brings down or ruins a song you'd otherwise like **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [December 10, 2020, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722 "2020-12-10T04:13:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/41 "2020-12-13T07:43:00Z")
Are you talking about the sound during the instrumental break? Those are castanets. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/42 "2020-12-13T07:47:29Z")
> [@Peanuthead](#): > > Those are castanets. heh - to go over this some more - I thought earlier, too…done in a quick flourish, to create more of a sort of knuckle-cracking sound, as opposed to the guiro’s rasping scrape sound. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/43 "2020-12-13T12:42:59Z")
Train’s “Drops of Jupiter” - a catchy song that seems to be about a girl’s mental trips around the universe, with playful references to astronomical sites that she visited. Beautiful song and lyrics. And then this: Can you [imagine](https://www.definitions.net/definition/imagine) no love, pride, deep-fried chicken Your best [friend](https://www.definitions.net/definition/friend) always [sticking](https://www.definitions.net/definition/sticking) up for you Even when I know you’re wrong? Can you [imagine](https://www.definitions.net/definition/imagine) no [first](https://www.definitions.net/definition/first) dance, freeze-dried romance Five-hour [phone](https://www.definitions.net/definition/phone) conversation The best soy [latte](https://www.definitions.net/definition/latte) that you ever had, and me? Just awful. Smh ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/44 "2020-12-13T14:40:53Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > R.E.M.'s final charting single, _We All Go Back To Where We Belong,_ is a pleasant piece of pop-music fluff, until the last 40 seconds or so. For some reason, Michael Stipe thought that making weird, nasal hum-singing noises would make the perfect coda. Bleh. Saturn Return could likewise do without all of the weird whistles. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/45 "2020-12-13T14:45:27Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I get stabby when a musician rhymes a word with the exact same word in the next line. Bugs the hell out of me. It bugs me so much I can’t even think of an example right now. Moody Blues, Question [a cut I otherwise adore] _I’m looking for someone to change my life_ _I’m looking for a miracle in my life_ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stafford_cripps/32/7167_2.png) [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stafford_Cripps)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/46 "2020-12-13T19:08:44Z")
> [@Redcanoe](#): > > The electronic sea gulls in the middle of Echoes by Pink Floyd. Yuck. There are recorded bird sounds in the middle of Echoes, but those are natural sounding rooks, not gulls. There is a long bit of atonal electronic sound around there, but I’ve never thought it was meant to sound like birds or anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/47 "2020-12-13T19:23:08Z")
ELO’s Wild West Hero would be an awesomely grandiose piece, if not for the jarring ‘saloon piano’ interlude. I get that it’s most Wild Westian, but it still pisses me off. I think Lynne didn’t know how to fill out the song, and opted for the off-the-wall section underlining the theme, as if it was needed. There are plenty of others, but that one came up first. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/48 "2020-12-13T19:25:48Z")
> [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](#): > > There are recorded bird sounds in the middle of Echoes, but those are natural sounding rooks, not gulls. There is a long bit of atonal electronic sound around there, but I’ve never thought it was meant to sound like birds or anything else. I’ve always thought whales. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/49 "2020-12-13T19:37:05Z")
In my opinion the worst thing that ever happened I. the history of music is “Oh my GOD do I try!” ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/50 "2020-12-13T20:20:43Z")
[Symptom of the Universe by Black Sabbath](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQi1Uvz6qRs). It’s a heavy and rock’n song. And then at 4:17 they go into some hippy shit that has nothing to do with the good parts of the song. [Funk #49 by James Gang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_qHU_6Ofc0). Awesome tune. But then at 1:30 they go into some bongo percussion crap that sounds like it was recorded in a jungle. What’s up with that? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/51 "2020-12-13T20:28:36Z")
[Burnin’ For You by Blue Oyster Cult](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipqqEFoJPL4). Great song right? But then keyboard chords come in at around 0:55. It’s totally unneeded and takes away from the heaviness of the song. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/52 "2020-12-13T20:31:58Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > [Symptom of the Universe by Black Sabbath](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQi1Uvz6qRs). It’s a heavy and rock’n song. And then at 4:17 they go into some hippy shit that has nothing to do with the good parts of the song. yeah, ikr? > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Black Sabbath’s “Symptom of the Universe” would have been my favourite number of theirs had it not been for the substantial section at the end where they sound like they were attempting some mutated extendo jam of “Black Water” or something. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/53 "2020-12-13T21:20:49Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I get stabby when a musician rhymes a word with the exact same word in the next line. Yes indeedy. It (almost) ruins ian dury’s sex & drugs & rock ‘n’ roll. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/54 "2020-12-13T21:25:21Z")
The rap part of Roll the Bones by Rush kind of sucks. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Hf-g21-arYk/maxresdefault.jpg "Roll the Bones (2004 Remaster)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-g21-arYk) > [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > Katie Perry’s _Dark Horse_ is a perfectly pleasant pop song except for the line at the end of the chorus where some electronically enhanced male voice intones > > “there’s no going back”. > > Irritating and totally out of place. The beginning part is kind of weird too. ---
**Author:** ![Redcanoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b487fb/32.png) [@Redcanoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redcanoe)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/55 "2020-12-13T21:55:48Z")
Never thought they were real birds, just terrible synthesized squawking noises that takes me out the song, ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/56 "2020-12-13T22:22:25Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > “Oh my GOD do I try!” Got a link? Or at least tell us which song… ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/57 "2020-12-13T22:26:15Z")
I guess **lissener** meant this: https://www.youtube.com/embed/6NXnxTNIWkc?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PL36jrFZuAUFOJNTJhLQAdRw8p1rGA3bAC ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/58 "2020-12-14T06:53:24Z")
Gack! Why would you do that??? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/59 "2020-12-14T13:55:56Z")
Arg, that’s what happens when I don’t read the OP. 🥴 But it’s interesting that we thought of the same song. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722/60 "2020-12-14T14:28:22Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Gack! Why would you do that??? I get the impression though that you wouldn’t be too keen on the overall song even without that line (or that inflection). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-song-part-that-either-brings-down-or-ruins-a-song-youd-otherwise-like/927722.md?page=4)