# A statue of RG3 at Baylor University?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 8, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629 "2014-07-08T13:49:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/1 "2014-07-08T13:49:01Z")

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RG3 is only out of college 2 years and Baylor is going to erect a statute of him? This sounds like an incredibly bad idea. While RG3 hasn’t shown character concerns to date, there’s always a chance that something could emerge. The passage of time should help determine if a statue is indeed warranted.

I think Washington is looking at an incredibly dysfunctional locker room this year and further inflating RG3’s ego won’t help.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/2 "2014-07-08T14:18:38Z")

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He won a Heisman. While quarterbacking at Baylor. I got no problems with this.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/3 "2014-07-08T14:55:45Z")

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Maybe things will go like in Spinal Tap, and the statue will turn out to be a foot tall.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/4 "2014-07-08T14:57:20Z")

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People care about the weirdest things.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/5 "2014-07-08T15:03:18Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> RG3 is only out of college 2 years and Baylor is going to erect a statute of him? This sounds like an incredibly bad idea. While RG3 hasn’t shown character concerns to date, there’s always a chance that something could emerge.

Oh when has something like _that_ ever happened? :smack:

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> I think Washington is looking at an incredibly dysfunctional locker room this year and further inflating RG3’s ego won’t help.

I know it’s fashionable to blame him for everything, but his ego is seems like the least of their problems.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/6 "2014-07-08T15:38:42Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> He won a Heisman. While quarterbacking at Baylor. I got no problems with this.

Indeed.

It’s not about what he does now, it’s about what he did while he was there. Baylor was the joke of the Big 12 since its creation, finishing 12th (dead last) 7 times, 11th 4 times, and 10th 3 times. Clearly the biggest difference for the team is Art Briles, who surely will get his own statue someday, but RG3 won the Heisman trophy and is, with apologies to Mike Singletary, currently their most prominent player.

Tim Tebow is _already_ out of the NFL but he’s got a statue at Florida (and deservingly so).

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/7 "2014-07-08T16:01:56Z")

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The timing isn’t so surprising when you consider it will go well with the completion of Baylor’s new football stadium just north of and within walking distance of the campus. RG III was an incredibly popular athlete _and_ student while a Bear. He was gracious, humble, giving and was a great ambassador for the school and the team. As a Bear myself I have zero problem with a statue of him that reminds us of and honors his achievements.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/8 "2014-07-08T16:20:54Z")

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Plus, (with the exception of **lieu** ) have you been to Waco? Anything to liven the place up has got to be welcome.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/9 "2014-07-08T16:56:16Z")

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Agreed, Waco pales compared to neighbors Dallas and Austin, and is ahead of only the dismally humdrum (except for **bump** ) College Station, located somewhere even further down the Brazos.

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/10 "2014-07-08T17:24:57Z")

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Who is RG3?

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/11 "2014-07-08T17:36:47Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Agreed, Waco pales compared to neighbors Dallas and Austin, and is ahead of only the dismally humdrum (except for **bump** ) College Station, located somewhere even further down the Brazos.

Did you remember that I’m an Aggie, or was that just a lucky dig?

But yeah, College Station is pretty dull, but doesn’t seem to quite have that feeling of malaise and awfulness that Waco, outside of Baylor and its students, has. It just seems kind of depressing to me- like where the redneck bible belt meets extremely impoverished black people.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/12 "2014-07-08T17:59:40Z")

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> [@Spiff](#):
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> Who is RG3?

Mediocre QB and Subway spokesperson, Robert Griffin the 3rd.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/13 "2014-07-10T15:16:38Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Mediocre QB

I don’t think it’s fair to call a Heisman Trophy winning college quarterback “mediocre”, even if he’s not tearing it up in the pros. Plus, he was doing pretty well prior to hurting his knee in the 2012 season.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/14 "2014-07-10T16:07:11Z")

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I figure it is only a matter of time (barring something OJ Simpson-like in the future) that Russell Wilson gets a statue at Wisconsin’s Camp Randall, even though he only played for a single season and lost the Rose Bowl and managed 9th the Heisman voting. Unless he beats the Packers in the NFC Playoffs, then all bets are off. So, RG3, a statue? No problem.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/15 "2014-07-10T18:59:52Z")

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Carmelo Anthony spent ONE year at Syracuse, but he brought them their only national title in basketball. I would have no objection if Syracuse put a statue of Carmelo in front of the Carrier Dome.

No matter what RG3 accomplishes from here on, he was a brilliant QB at Baylor and he brought them a lot of prestige. Why NOT give him a statue?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/16 "2014-07-11T12:35:17Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> No matter what RG3 accomplishes from here on, he was a brilliant QB at Baylor and he brought them a lot of prestige. Why NOT give him a statue?

Because it’s pretty silly to honor someone with a permanent monument of that sort for little if any reason other than that he can play some sort of game really well.

Of course, in the short term, we’re going to bestow fame on all sorts of silly people for all sorts of silly reasons. But a statue isn’t about the short term. A statue of someone is a way of saying, “we want to be sure people who pass through here decades from now remember this person.” Why on earth would it be important to say that about RG3?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/17 "2014-07-11T14:29:57Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Because it’s pretty silly to honor someone with a permanent monument of that sort for little if any reason other than that he can play some sort of game really well.
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> Of course, in the short term, we’re going to bestow fame on all sorts of silly people for all sorts of silly reasons. But a statue isn’t about the short term. A statue of someone is a way of saying, “we want to be sure people who pass through here decades from now remember this person.” Why on earth would it be important to say that about RG3?

Then your objection has nothing to do with Robert Grffin per se. Your objection is to putting up statues of athletes period.

Would you acknowledge that IF it were legitimate to put up statues of stellar athletes, then it would make sense for Baylor to honor its first Heisman Trophy winner?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/18 "2014-07-11T20:25:59Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Then your objection has nothing to do with Robert Grffin per se. Your objection is to putting up statues of athletes period.

No, I didn’t say that. I said " for little if any reason **other** than that he can play some sort of game really well." Roberto Clemente, yes; Ty Cobb, no.

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> Would you acknowledge that IF it were legitimate to put up statues of stellar athletes, then it would make sense for Baylor to honor its first Heisman Trophy winner?

No.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/19 "2014-07-11T20:34:52Z")

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It is common for colleges to erect statues of their Heisman winners at the stadiums. OU has statues of all 5 of their Heisman winners including Jason White, who was never drafted in the NFL.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-statue-of-rg3-at-baylor-university/692629/20 "2014-07-13T00:13:11Z")

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I went to Florida State University. There are 3 statues at the stadium. There is one of Chief Osceola and Renegade, the sportsman (football player helping up an opponent) and the Bobby Bowden statue. There’s not a Burt Reynolds or Deion Sanders statue, and certainly not a Chris Weinke or Charlie Ward statue. I’d post a pit thread if one was erected of Jameis Winston.

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