# A stupid hypothetical question about transsexuals and fundamentalism **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 2, 2001, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024 "2001-05-02T02:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dixiechiq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@dixiechiq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dixiechiq)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2001, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024/41 "2001-05-11T12:38:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zev\_steinhardt \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by dixiechiq \* > > \*\*zev, > > > > i have no desire to go to the pit for any reason. i don’t know why you would say that. > > \*\* > > I’m sorry. I may have misunderstood what you were saying or simply overreacted. If so, I apologize. (it’s been a loooooooong day). \*\* i understand, we all have lives outside of this forum. [most of us anyway. 🙂] > [@](#): > > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*\* > > but if a man has boobs and buys a bra, then it is a man’s bra. \*\* > > If there’s a legitimate need for him to wear it, and it’s not a woman’s bra (i.e., it’s clearly different in style, etc.) then you may have a case. But in my example, that’s not what I was talking about. I was talking about a person who doesn’t “need” one. > > Zev Steinhardt \*\* \*\* [/QUOTE] need is a difficult thing to define. but lets say a man needs one, but that there are none available for men. should he do without even though there are multitudes available of a style you find objectionable only if worn by a man?? if you are coming from somewhere other than stereotype or prejudice i am not seeing it. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2001, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024/42 "2001-05-11T12:54:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dixiechiq \* > \*\*but if a man has boobs and buys a bra, then it is a man’s bra. \*\* No, we learn from _Seinfeld_ that technically it is called a “ **bro** ”. 😃 Oh yeah…gotta do that ducking and running thing now… ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2001, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024/43 "2001-05-11T23:29:31Z")
I know a multitude of girls who dont “need” to wear a bra. If acceptable fashion is governed by neccessity, I think most of us are destined for brimstone. I think the idea behind garments and sexuality was to keep gender confusion to a minimum. It’s alot easier to look at a woman from 50 yards and say “Ooh, she’s a girl… I should try to court her,” than to go out for drinks for a few nights before noticing she has a rather pronounced adams apple and hair knuckles. Then again, I suppose most rules are a direct result of social convenience. ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2001, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024/44 "2001-05-11T23:32:50Z")
Hair Knuckles: A very rare disorder that causes the knuckle to thin itself to the width of a hair follicle from which fingers would dangle useless and comically. This disorder only affects cross-dressing men. Erm. I think the word I was looking for was “hairy” ---
**Author:** ![dixiechiq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@dixiechiq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dixiechiq)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2001, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024/45 "2001-05-12T11:35:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by malkavia \* > > \*\*Then again, I suppose most rules are a direct result of social convenience. \*\* convenient for whom?? certainly not convenient for people that want or feel a need to dress outside expected gender/sex rules. i think most rules are a direct result of something else. > [@](#): > > \*\* > I think the idea behind garments and sexuality was to keep gender confusion to a minimum.\*\* perhaps the rules asto sex and clothing are enforced because of homophobia. most guys strongly avoid anything that might indicate that they are gay, and many don’t want anyone else to be gay either. even accepting others to be gay is too scary for a few of them. many guys are even afraid of women that used to have penises. lol at “hair knuckles”. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-stupid-hypothetical-question-about-transsexuals-and-fundamentalism/64024.md?page=2)