# A surprising encounter for the SDMB One-Trick-Pony Chowder and Marching Society w/H4E **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2002, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584 "2002-11-13T15:34:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/121 "2002-11-18T16:50:36Z")
I gotta jump in with masonite. His4ever is no peach, that’s for sure, but accusing her of being in the KKK ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/122 "2002-11-18T16:54:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > \*\*dear Lord, > please let His4Ever get the joke and loosen up. > Amen.:o \*\* The queen of whoosh- don’t count on it. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/123 "2002-11-18T16:57:14Z")
**Masonite** : in “satire” one overstates one’s opponent’s position, while still keeping the general thrust of their ideology. The Klan and Torquemada things were clearly overstatement but are the logical reductio ad absurdum of her hate. _Read_ her anti-gay drive-bys. She stops into threads _for no other purpose_ than to post anti-gay drivebys. She apparently sees gay people as, _at best_, a way to gain conversion points. I can see her sitting there, with a scorecard, saying “Tsk, that’s one more gay damned to hell. Teehee!” Sorry you didn’t like it, but I’ll stand by it. On preview, reading **jarbaby** ’s comments: did people really think I was accusing her of being a Klansman as opposed to likening her behavior to one? Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/124 "2002-11-18T16:57:31Z")
By the way, _has_ anyone ever gotten out of the One-Trick Pony Chowder and Marching Society? CJ ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/125 "2002-11-18T17:05:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by His4ever > That’s strange, I just went to church yesterday with a lot of people who believe the same as I do. > [@](#): > > by Fenris: I’ve been meaning to ask: how do you all get your sheets so nice and white? I mean, soot from burning crosses must be hard to get out. Sounds like a pretty straightforward, one to one accusation that the people at her “church” wear white robes and burn crosses, which I can only assume you are using as symbols of the KKK. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/126 "2002-11-18T17:36:01Z")
> [@](#): > > By the way, has anyone ever gotten out of the One-Trick Pony Chowder and Marching Society? ::: raises hand ::: Me. Twice. First time I was Pitted was by **SqrlCub** – for being too rationalistic, and not allowing myself to accept his witnesses about pagan mysticism. (For anybody who had read my posts on belief, as well as for myself, that must have been a _strange_ experience. Before that, though, due to my posting in a couple of religion GD threads and not making myself clear, **Satan** had formed the misperception that I was a Christian of the conservative evangelical stripe who wouldn’t accept anything based on reason or empirical evidence if it conflicted with a tenet of what he supposed to be my faith. I ended up with both of them as close friends, both online and in our all-too-few bodies-occupying-the-same-room get-togethers. I want to add one thing to **CJ** ’s previous suggestions to **His4Ever** , and this one is heartfelt: You claim to know a God of love, dear, and I believe you do. I’ve read your posts here and on another board with an attempt at Christian understanding. But trying to see your posts with the eyes of a non-Christian, Christ’s _love_ doesn’t show through in them. From the evidence of your posts, you’re focused too closely on the witness to non-believers in the evangelical mode that insists on their utter sinfulness and on God’s redemptive work – and, as I’ve said before, that _style_ of witness does not “connect” well with people here. Do witness to our God – but try to say a bit more about the marvelous things He’s done, and a bit less on what your understanding of the Bible calls sins. And in particular on the love that we’re supposed to express for every person for whom Christ died. And you might see a definite difference in how people perceive you and what you’re trying to do. I know I have, for what difference that makes to you. And you have Scriptural warrant for that: “By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, that you love one another.” ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/127 "2002-11-18T17:38:34Z")
Fenris: I guess I know what satire is, thanks. You don’t think it’s overkill to refer to the KKK to describe rigid, but not racist, beliefs, when there is still the actual KKK and actual racism to fight? Why, if you do that, you’re no better than Hitler! :rolleyes: I’m perhaps the one billionth person to notice that when you throw around these terms as general insults, you trivialize the terrible impact of the actual, real groups you’re referring to. I shouldn’t presume to lecture you of all people on this, but I’m stunned by what you said, and could not let it pass. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/128 "2002-11-18T17:49:30Z")
Rigid, bigoted, cruel and vindictive. Doesn’t seem to trivialize anything to me. The only lack of action is what separates her “views” from the actual groups he refers to. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/129 "2002-11-18T17:52:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by masonite \* > \*\*Why, if you do that, you’re no better than Hitler! :rolleyes: \*\* Aargh. You’re right. And given that I’ve bitched about the misuse of “Nazi”… My only point of disagreement with you at this point is where you described her views as “rigid, not racist”. I’d say she’s _far_ closer to racist tham rigid. \*\* > [@](#): > > I shouldn’t presume to lecture you of all people on this, but I’m stunned by what you said, and could not let it pass. \*\* No, by all means, presume. 🙂 You (and **Jarbaby** )were right and I apologize for the “Klan” references. **cjhoworth/Polycarp** : Just to be clear, I’ve _never_ put **Polycarp** in my “One-Trick Pony Chowder and Marching Society” threads. (I want to avert any possible misunderstanding and a huge drain on the search engines. 😃 ), but yeah, the club was originally created to feature a poster named **SeaSorbust** who was obsessed with Flaming Metor Doom (most of his posts related to Earth being hit with giant meteors/asteroids and all life on earth being wiped out). After a couple of people pitted him, he diversified and was a pretty cool poster afterwards. (before he got busted for sock-puppetry) _on preview_ **Epimetheus** : in retrospect, that lack of action is a pretty big differnce though. I think **masonite** ’s right that it diminishes what the groups actually do. But your list pretty well sums up H4E Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/130 "2002-11-18T18:04:20Z")
🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/131 "2002-11-18T18:17:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Fenris \* > I’d say she’s far closer to racist tham rigid As **His4ever** is famous on the board for her unrelenting (rigid) views on homosexuality/Roman Catholicism/Mormonism/and pet care, that she is actually more racist than rigid is a very serious charge indeed. Can you provide one example to support this charge ? ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/132 "2002-11-18T18:19:30Z")
Pet care??? Where does she stand on pet care? Can we expect a new Pit thread soon? :: wanders off to feed the cats :: ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/133 "2002-11-18T18:24:18Z")
I consider being “anti-gay” as a subset of “racist”. As being gay is not a choice, the term is far more appropriate as she hates\* people for a characteristic they were born with that they cannot (and should not be pestered to) change. Fenris \*I’m not gonna quibble over whether her gleeful “You’re goin’ to hell an’ I’m NOT 'cause you’re gaaaayyy” style posts are hateful or not. There’s been plenty of evidence that the people to whom they’re directed think so, pretty much without exception. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/134 "2002-11-18T19:09:38Z")
As the Original One Trick Pony[sup]TM[/sup]… We are amused. Esprix, HRM ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/135 "2002-11-18T19:17:30Z")
Billy Elliot: “I feel like a sissy.” Mrs. Wilkinson (his ballet teacher): “Then don’t act like one.” ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/136 "2002-11-18T19:51:06Z")
Mr. **Fenris** , you are a veritable Mark Twain. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/137 "2002-11-18T20:00:44Z")
Exprix: “HRM?” Poly: I think you’re reading too much into H4E’s posts. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/138 "2002-11-18T20:02:35Z")
HRM= His (or Her) Royal Majesty ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/139 "2002-11-18T20:12:06Z")
**Fenris** , I didn’t mean your formalized group, but rather the traditional classification of Certain Posters as one-trick ponies, which rather predates you. (Heck, you weren’t even here when the LBMB drive-by-witness-a-rama happened!) **Monty** : “There’s so much good in the worst of us, and so much bad in the best of us…” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2002, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584/140 "2002-11-18T20:31:41Z")
Actually, I’d been lurking and showed up right about the same time (or just barely after) the LBMB invasion (so I even remember **Phaedrus** …barely) 🙂 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-surprising-encounter-for-the-sdmb-one-trick-pony-chowder-and-marching-society-w-h4e/136584.md?page=8)