# A Tashabot Pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 8, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312 "2007-05-08T22:44:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/41 "2007-05-09T03:38:10Z")
I don’t see why everyone is so damned skeptical. Don’t we _all_ have two LiveJournals? I mean, I have two LiveJournals: the secret one where I make veiled threats of violence against public figures, and the double extra secret one where I…wait for it…_make veiled threats of violence against public figures_. The first one is like a decoy, see; when you find it, I’ll quickly change it, ignorant of Google caching. But I’ll _never_ change the double extra secret one, because _you can never find it_! 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/42 "2007-05-09T03:44:40Z")
Well, **tashabot** , A journalist lives and dies by her words, so to speak. Your words are the tools of your trade. IMO, to post something like that on a blog was the height of stupidity, especially for a budding Jimmy Olsen. You can’t be so young and naive to think those words, your stock in trade, might not come back and bite you in the ass. And reason number 12,434,501 to not post stupid shit on the intarwebs. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/43 "2007-05-09T03:49:34Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] Well, **tashabot** , A journalist lives and dies by her words, so to speak. Your words are the tools of your trade. IMO, to post something like that on a blog was the height of stupidity, especially for a budding Jimmy Olsen. You can’t be so young and naive to think those words, your stock in trade, might not come back and bite you in the ass. **And reason number 12,434,501 to not post stupid shit on the intarwebs**. [/QUOTE] **Especially** on the SDMB, where: 1. You can’t delete old posts; 2. they’re archived (theoretically) forever, and; 3. the prevailing culture derives great _schadenfreude_ from digging this kind of shit up years later. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/44 "2007-05-09T03:51:22Z")
I have Google Cache Protector 2.1, so I am fine. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/45 "2007-05-09T03:54:34Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] Well, **tashabot** , A journalist lives and dies by her words, so to speak. Your words are the tools of your trade. IMO, to post something like that on a blog was the height of stupidity, especially for a budding Jimmy Olsen. [/QUOTE] **tasha**. Google “Jayson Blair”, “Janet Cooke” , “Jack Kelley” , “Stephen Glass.” Hell, the list is extensive. To save you time, [Jayson Blair - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayson_Blair) Scroll down to the “see also” part. ---
**Author:** ![Roonwit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Roonwit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roonwit)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/46 "2007-05-09T04:02:09Z")
At the risk of fucking up a perfectly good pitting with yet another innocuous question, but how does one go about finding the Google-cached copy of a particular web page? Is it just a matter of providing enough keywords to make the page appear in the results list, or is there a more convenient method? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/47 "2007-05-09T04:26:45Z")
Budding Jimmy Olsen? What about maybe a budding Michael Hiltzik? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/48 "2007-05-09T04:33:32Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] Budding Jimmy Olsen? What about maybe a budding Michael Hiltzik? [/QUOTE] I had to look him up, and that is spot on. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/49 "2007-05-09T04:40:27Z")
[QUOTE=Bobotheoptimist] I’m glad someone else is getting fed up with her pointless holier than thou crap. [/QUOTE] “Getting”? I’m way past getting. I’ve gotten. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/50 "2007-05-09T05:21:57Z")
[QUOTE=Roonwit] At the risk of fucking up a perfectly good pitting with yet another innocuous question, but how does one go about finding the Google-cached copy of a particular web page? Is it just a matter of providing enough keywords to make the page appear in the results list, or is there a more convenient method? [/QUOTE] Type the URL of the page into a Google search bar with the string ‘cache:’ right in front of it without spaces. It should look like this: ```auto cache:http://www.example.com/random.html ``` But I like the [Wayback Machine](http://www.archive.org/web/web.php) better: It archives more (in my experience) and you can pick which archived version you want based on the date it was made. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/51 "2007-05-09T05:22:31Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] I thought QG WAS the hall monitor… [/QUOTE] Ah, but she’s not alone. . . . ---
**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Jackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clockwork\_Jackal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clockwork_Jackal)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/52 "2007-05-09T05:38:43Z")
In World of Warcraft, the term we used was **OMGWTFPWNed** (Pronounced “OhMyGodWhatTheFuckPowned” ) for when one was pwned so hard and so fast, that one never even saw it coming. That is all. Carry on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/53 "2007-05-09T05:49:14Z")
[QUOTE=Clockwork Jackal] In World of Warcraft, the term we used was **OMGWTFPWNed** (Pronounced “OhMyGodWhatTheFuckPowned” ) for when one was pwned so hard and so fast, that one never even saw it coming. That is all. Carry on. 😃 [/QUOTE] I figure pwned, by definition, already includes the OMGWTF. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/54 "2007-05-09T12:13:12Z")
[QUOTE=Klaatu] I figure pwned, by definition, already includes the OMGWTF. 😛 [/QUOTE] As another hijack, how do you pronounce “pwned”? I use some variation of “pawned”. ---
**Author:** ![Roonwit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Roonwit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roonwit)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/55 "2007-05-09T12:18:38Z")
[QUOTE=Derleth] Type the URL of the page into a Google search bar with the string ‘cache:’ right in front of it without spaces. It should look like this: ```auto cache:http://www.example.com/random.html ``` But I like the [Wayback Machine](http://www.archive.org/web/web.php) better: It archives more (in my experience) and you can pick which archived version you want based on the date it was made. [/QUOTE] Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/56 "2007-05-09T12:32:33Z")
[QUOTE=rayh] As another hijack, how do you pronounce “pwned”? I use some variation of “pawned”. [/QUOTE] I say “pohned”, to rhyme with “loaned”. Except that I don’t actually say it, it’s what I think in my mind. The few times I’ve heard the “p” pronounced it agrees with my pronunciation, which granted might be a regional variation. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/57 "2007-05-09T12:44:46Z")
“pwned” is when you get taken out one time, spectacularly, by a superior opponent in such a way that his dominance over you is readily apparent. “wtfpwned” is when that pwnage lasts for a series or sequence- like if the same guy tags you 4 or 5 times in a row, in a way you never saw coming- where you never had a chance. “omgwtfpwned” is when the pwnage defines the whole entire game- when your final line reads -3 kills, no assists, 22 deaths, and 21 of those deaths were from one guy and the 22nd was you bouncing a grenade off a rock back onto your own team because you thought you heard your pwner coming. It’s a level of degrees, really. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/58 "2007-05-09T13:29:20Z")
I was a little skeptical about this pitting until I came to this quote in the original thread… [QUOTE=tashabot] I don’t mind the investigation, as they’re doing their job; it just bothers me that I, a relative nonentity and nonthreat, is being perceived as such for a comment that I didn’t put any thought behind. [/QUOTE] I’m not sure how **tasha** thinks that they would know that 1) she was a nonthreat, and 2) that it was a comment she didn’t put any thought behind. Actually, I think several times she defends herself by saying that the comment was an offhand remark. I’m not sure, for one thing, that it matters that it’s an offhand remark. The ravings of murderous lunatics are often rather stream-of-consciousness. And as far as being a “nonthreat”…the same murderous lunatics are also often people no one would suspect (hence the stereotype of the “quiet person who kept to himself” who also has 20 dead bodies buried in the backyard). Seriously, **tasha** , if you want to be a journalist, you need to think about _everything_ you write. IMO, it’s not appropriate for a professional writer to say"I didn’t put any thought behind it," even when writing something for personal reasons, when it is being published in a public forum. If what you write is meant to be satire or otherwise not “serious”, please realize that not everyone will take it that way, and may be offended or concerned. The internet is NOT private. Any news outlet that hires you will undoubtedly review what you have written for the world to see, and you may want to think about the impression you will make, both journalistically and professionally. Homeland Security is not the only organization that may ask you to explain or defend some of the things you have written. [QUOTE=Jodi] Oh, please, allow me to add Quiddity who weighs in – with precious little information – to compare the U.S. to Soviet Russia as she piously thanks God to be posting from a “truly free” country like Canada. She can kiss my semi-free ass. [/QUOTE] Mine too. There aren’t enough :rolleyes: in the world to express my attitude after reading her drive-bys. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/59 "2007-05-09T14:21:20Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] Seriously, **tasha** , if you want to be a journalist, [/quote] go work for Fox. Wishing to kill Democrats (or writing that that some is lucky 'cuz ya don’t have a gun with you) conveniently “forgetting” about what she wrote and then trying to cover up what she did, could give her credentials there ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312/60 "2007-05-09T14:50:01Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Seriously, tasha, if you want to be a journalist, [QUOTE=TokyoPlayer] go work for Fox. [/QUOTE] …it’s the next best thing. (See? It’s a chain sentence!) 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-tashabot-pitting/403312.md?page=4)