# A thread about birthcontrol, and my poor sister

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778 "2003-11-01T02:04:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gansagrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gansagrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gansagrl)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/41 "2003-11-02T19:31:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*Pick up a hobby? **PICK UP A HOBBY??!!!**
> 
> “Honey, the kids are asleep and you look soooo good in that shortie nightgown. Let’s go to the bedroom and look at our stamp collection”
> 
> I don’t think you are imprudent **Gansagrl**. Just hilarious and maybe a little–no a lot-- niave. A husband and wife should find something else to do instead of having intercourse. Haahaa. \*\*

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    Yes!--Lie to the kids so they leave your alone! 

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And get sticky without the stamps…

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/42 "2003-11-02T19:34:24Z")

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I think this has been discussed already, in a teen pregnancy thread, if I recall.

IIRC, some nitwit came in the thread going on and on about how people should just not have intercourse if they don’t want to get pregnant. Who gives a fuck how responsible the partners are about birth control. If they don’t want to have baby after baby after baby, they should just never have intercourse. They don’t get to excersise a part of human instinct or experience that kind of intimacy with their life partners. Nope! If you don’t want to get preggers, _no sex for you!_

:rolleyes:

I believe said nitwit had their ass handed to 'em.

[sub]by the way, some people don’t want to be forced into a life of endless bj’s and cun. if _they want to have intercourse as well_. I believe the attitude of intercourse for procreation purposes only is confined to certain fundamentalist religious groups.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Gansagrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gansagrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gansagrl)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/43 "2003-11-02T19:58:03Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
\*\*I think this has been discussed already, in a teen pregnancy thread, if I recall.

They don’t get to excersise a part of human instinct or experience that kind of intimacy with their life partners. Nope! If you don’t want to get preggers, _no sex for you!_

…kinda like “no soup for you!” shades of Seinfield.

[sub]by the way, some people don’t want to be forced into a life of endless bj’s and cun. i  
O.k. all kidding aside. 😛 I’m a newbie so I’m not familiar with some thread on teen sex. I sincerely believe pleasuring your partner in other ways than intercourse is not such a bad thing-except for the squemish. Neither is intercourse:) Although it seems the thought of “endless bj’s etc.” is unappealing to you,  
the thought of being forced into a life of endless diapers and nightlt colic is what would push me over the edge…

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/44 "2003-11-02T20:58:36Z")

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In addition to intercourse, sure. Instead of intercourse? As a life-long thing? You have to be fucking kidding me.

Of course, there’s nothing to force you into a life of endless diapers and colic. That’s what abortion and adoption are for.

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/45 "2003-11-02T21:00:47Z")

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Please pardon the unintentional pun in my previous post.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/46 "2003-11-02T21:38:51Z")

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**Gansagrl**

I’m sorry, but your horrific coding made your post a bit difficult to understand.

What I got from it was that a life of no intercourse except for the purposes of having a child is better than a life with an unplanned for child.

Which basically boils down to an adult, married couple being expected to go 5, 10, 20+ years without engaging in sexual intercourse if they do not want children with possibly a brief reprise for as long as it takes to get pregnant if they do want children.

You can’t seriously be advocating this.

And before you go off on your whole “I’m not a prude, look, I’m advocating _oral_ sex!” roll again, I’d like to reiterate that oral sex and sexual intercourse are two seperate things. Together they’re great, one without the other, EVER? Not so much.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/47 "2003-11-02T21:57:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Gansagrl \*  
> \*\*by the way, some people don’t want to be forced into a life of endless bj’s and cun. i  
> O.k. all kidding aside. 😛 I’m a newbie so I’m not familiar with some thread on teen sex. I sincerely believe pleasuring your partner in other ways than intercourse is not such a bad thing-except for the squemish. Neither is intercourse:) Although it seems the thought of “endless bj’s etc.” is unappealing to you,  
> the thought of being forced into a life of endless diapers and nightlt colic is what would push me over the edge… \*\*

**Deadly Nightlight"s** unfortunate sister’s story aside, birth control is very effective. If the thought of accidental pregnancy scares you that much, though, you can subsist on BJ’s and cunnilingus if you wish. Just don’t expect too many people to agree with this higly paranoid solution. And good luck finding a husband who thinks this is a good idea. I hear David Gest is now available.

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**Author:** ![Gansagrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gansagrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gansagrl)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/48 "2003-11-02T22:02:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \*  
> \*\*In addition to intercourse, sure. Instead of intercourse? As a life-long thing? You have to be fucking kidding me.
> 
> Of course, there’s nothing to force you into a life of endless diapers and colic. That’s what abortion and adoption are for. \*\*

O.K NOW Everybody take a deep breath and repeat after me:  
:o Gansagrl is not telling you that you should never have intercourse again. Say it again-feel better? Go ahead:o  
Gansagrl is not telling you that you should never have intercourse again. again This is not about you. We are talking about a woman who has been hijacked by her own fallopian tubes! A husband with sperm tails like the legs of a Lance Armstrong!:eek:  
Let’s be proactive here. My vote is for a vasectomy with a hold  
(take that breath again) on intercourse until the sperm count is back-usually a few months post-op.

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**Author:** ![Gansagrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gansagrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gansagrl)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/49 "2003-11-02T22:31:07Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
\*\ ***Gansagrl**

I’m sorry, but your horrific coding made your post a bit difficult to understand.

What I got from it was that a life of no intercourse except for the purposes of having a child is better than a life with an unplanned for child.

Which basically boils down to an adult, married couple being expected to go 5, 10, 20+ years without engaging in sexual intercourse if they do not want children with possibly a brief reprise for as long as it takes to get pregnant if they do want children.

You can’t seriously be advocating this.

You are right-I am not. I have just been made acutely aware of the limitations in clear communication when posting on message boards. Please also refer to my other post. ☹

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/50 "2003-11-03T04:57:46Z")

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Wow, quite a case of shooting the messenger here. Yes, sex is an important part of the human experience, but is it such a radical idea that sometimes there are things more important than it? Should Mrs. Christopher Reeves find a new guy?

And I still would it explained to me how it is that a life without intercourse is a terrible thing, if homosexuals routinely choose such a life.

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/51 "2003-11-03T07:33:01Z")

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Hey, if that’s what they _choose_, willingly and of their own free will, I say go for it. It’s not, however, what I would choose. Frankly, given the choice between gettting to have sex with my husband or never having sex with him because our birth control might fail, the sex thing wins hands down every time.

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/52 "2003-11-03T14:54:55Z")

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At our final Lamaze class the instructor was going over post-delivery issues and asked everyone to guess how long we have to wait before resuming intercourse. I said, after the vasectomy heals!

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**Author:** ![Deadly\_Nightlight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Deadly\_Nightlight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deadly_Nightlight)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/53 "2003-11-03T18:22:17Z")

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wow, lots of replies since I was here last  
Someone on the first page (can’t remember who and too lazy/in a hurry to look it up) said it right

First Husband did not want a vasectomy- she got her tubes tied  
They divorced  
Second Husband didn’t think he needed one as her tubes were tied  
She got pregnant again  
Second Husband has Doctors appt to get a vasectomy

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/54 "2003-11-03T19:12:59Z")

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**The Ryan** , us homos **hardly** go without intercourse!  
Highlight the box for a detailed analysis of Penetration for Queers:

Dildos, buttplugs, strap-ons, Greek, woooo!

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**Author:** ![Gansagrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gansagrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gansagrl)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/55 "2003-11-03T21:32:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \*  
> \*\ ***The Ryan** , us homos **hardly** go without intercourse!  
> Highlight the box for a detailed analysis of Penetration for Queers:
> 
> Dildos, buttplugs, strap-ons, Greek, woooo! \*\*

> [@](#):
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> us homos hardly go without intercourse1

Good point. Rather arrogant of us heteros to believe otherwise.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/56 "2003-11-04T00:21:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \*  
> **The Ryan** , us homos **hardly** go without intercourse!

:rolleyes:

Thank you, Mister Nitpick. Since you people seem to refuse to take context into account when addressing my question, apparently I have to spell everything out. So I suppose I should have written “People in this thread are implying that anything short of a penis entering a vagina does not constitute a satisfying sex life. And yet most homosexuals do not perform that act. So is this act truly crucial to a satisfying life, or have you simply become convinced that this is so?” Is that explicit enough for you?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/57 "2003-11-04T01:11:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Broomstick \*  
> **Yeah, actually this has happened. REALLY super-rare, but just within the last year there has been a report of a woman carrying a baby to term in her liver, and in other instances an etopic pregnancy has not resulted in ruptured tubes but the baby growing as a parasite on the intestines or some such. Definitely gyncological emergency territory.**

> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by Mayflower_  
> **Oh, and Broomstick, my cousin’s wife carried a baby TO TERM completely outside of the uterus–and they never knew it until it was time for she was ready to have the baby and she suddenly said that something was very wrong. They performed an emergency C-section, and found that the baby had implanted on the OUTER uterine wall. (Don’t ask ME how–I’ve never figured that out myself!) Baby was fine! But that was the strangest thing I’d ever heard!**

WOW I have never ever heard about this before! This is absolutely fascinating. **Broomstick,** do you have any cites or anything, I would love to learn more about this, it is so strange and unbelievable!

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/58 "2003-11-04T05:39:54Z")

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**The Ryan** , you’re hardly one to talk about context. What, with your comparing a hetero couple never having intercourse for fear of conceiving an unwanted child with a homosexual couple.

:rolleyes:

We’re talking about a couple refraining from doing something they are capable of and enjoy doing. With eachother.

Try and keep up.

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/59 "2003-11-04T06:07:48Z")

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Thank you, **lezlers**.

And **The Ryan** , it’s **Missus** Nitpick to you.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-about-birthcontrol-and-my-poor-sister/210778/60 "2003-11-04T14:42:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Ryle Dup \*  
> **Man : hormone injection shots (they exist)**

They do? Seriously? I’ve been looking like hell for a male contraceptive that doesn’t involve putting a rubber shield between myself and my beloved. Why have I never heard of these? Where can I read about them? What’s in them?

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