# A thread for Gulftiger to discuss politics **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006 "2024-07-30T12:02:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/81 "2024-07-31T02:31:08Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > I do not spew nor believe nonsense. Your posts on this board show otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/82 "2024-07-31T04:48:28Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Your posts on this board show otherwise. Sucks to stumble into a Pit thread that ISN’T about you and somehow pivot it to being ALL about you. OP (Original Pittee) can’t get a word in edgewise now. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/83 "2024-07-31T05:21:16Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Let’s say you want to audit the result for Arizona. […] Auditing stuff is a lot of work, but every single number that added up to a Biden win was audited by a professional and reviewed by observers from both sides of the aisle. If someone falsified the result in Arizona, they have to get those false values into the individual results from these districts that cast 500-1,000 votes. About those professional auditors… maybe next time don’t use Arizona as your example. It’s reasonable for a low info voter to be confused about Arizona specifically because the high profile auditors of Maricopa County (\>50% of state pop) majorly screwed up their PR game, if not their actual report. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/84 "2024-07-31T05:50:36Z")
I don’t understand this. The “original pittee”, as @wguy123 called him, has made it abundantly clear he’s not debating or discussing politics other than to troll. What’s the purpose of giving him a dedicated thread for him to troll in? I ask this in The BBQ Pit because I’m calling another poster a troll, which is not peritted in ATMB. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/85 "2024-07-31T05:58:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What’s the purpose of giving him a dedicated thread for him to troll in? Mods carved this thread out of [another thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12465) before the cancer spread to the vital organs. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/86 "2024-07-31T06:16:40Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Far-right radicals are fairly consistent on promoting American hegemony in foreign policy, but only when it suits American interests. True. Also true is that _THEY’RE NOT CONSERVATIVE!_ ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/87 "2024-07-31T06:21:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What’s the purpose of giving him a dedicated thread for him to troll in? In the interest of not derailing the trolls thread, I suggested there that if the Gulf Tiger Shrimp’s views were sincere, and if he relied on sarcasm as a debating tactic, then he was free to start a Pit thread about his love of Trump or whatever the fuck else he wanted to rant about. One of the mods created this thread to avoid once again hijacking the “Trolls” thread. It remains to be seen whether the subject of this thread has any interest in trying to support his views. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/88 "2024-07-31T15:03:44Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It remains to be seen whether the subject of this thread has any interest in trying to support his views There is post #71. Though as you say it remains to be seen whether they’ll return and if so what they’ll say. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/89 "2024-08-02T12:12:40Z")
> [@solost](#): > > The 2020 election was the most closely watched election in history, specifically because Trump said before the 2016 election that it would be rigged, and even claimed it had been rigged after he won, saying that he would have gotten even more votes. > > Each state controls its election process independently. Biden won the 2020 election because he won 8 swing or battleground states- Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. So for the Democrats to have ‘rigged’ the vote, they would have had to achieve the equivalent of not just the ‘heist of the century’, but 8 separate ‘heists of the century’ on the same night. > > Some of those 8 swing states had Republican-controlled governments, like Arizona and Georgia. Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia Secretary of State at the time, who Trump famously asked to ‘find 11,780 votes’ had been a loyal acolyte in Trump’s good graces, up until then. Why would Raffensperger not have cried foul if he had had the slightest belief or evidence that the Georgia election had been rigged? @GulfTiger, that post seems pretty convincing. Can you ignore the sideswipes, accusations, and other dumb asides that some posters are doing and focus on the election for a few posts? Nothing in that post is secret – you can look it all up. After doing that, are you still unsure about the last election? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/90 "2024-08-02T14:51:03Z")
Any true MAGAt would say that info comes from CNN, which is all lies because because it reports news they don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/91 "2024-08-02T14:52:50Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Any true MAGAt would say that info comes from CNN Well, maybe @GulfTiger can speak for himself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/92 "2024-08-02T23:26:56Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Well, maybe @GulfTiger can speak for himself. The evidence at hand thus far (his parrotting certain talking points) is that he cannot. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/93 "2024-08-02T23:32:51Z")
I always liked this one, too: > Ken Block, whom the Trump campaign hired in 2020 to find voter fraud in the election, penned an op-ed Tuesday stating unequivocally that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and that there was no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election. > Block, who owns Simpatico Software Systems, said his company’s findings were communicated directly to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, and transcripts of depositions taken by the Jan. 6 select committee investigating the attack on the Capitol “show that the campaign found no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of any election.” > “What these claims don’t take into account is that voter fraud is detectable, quantifiable and verifiable. I have yet to see anyone offer up ‘evidence’ of voter fraud from the 2020 election that provides these three things,” he added. [**SOURCE**](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen/) ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/94 "2024-08-10T03:22:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I keep reading it as **Gutfinger**. (But then I read **Wookinpanub** as **Wookie In A Pub**.) Interesting. I keep reading it as _Gullfinger_ alongside a 007 film theme song looping in my head. Gulllll-_FINGAH!_ But mostly I posted to say, I have _always_ read **Wookinpanub** as **Wookie In A Pub**. It’s like you almost don’t have a choice—as if it was some optical illusion specially devised and laboratory tested to make us read it as something else. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/95 "2024-08-10T03:49:11Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > But mostly I posted to say, I have _always_ read **Wookinpanub** as **Wookie In A Pub**. I lways figured it was from Eddie Murphy, as Buckwheat, on _Saturday Night Live_. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/96 "2024-08-10T05:22:54Z")
I think you’re right. It’s Buckwheat speak for “Looking For Love”. And I first realized that when this same subject came up 4 or 9 years ago and I looked closer at the actual username. Nonetheless, even after that I still read it as Wookie in a Pub. It’s the damnedest thing. ETA: and on top of that, they had/have a avatar of Eddie Murphy as Buckwheat on SNL. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/97 "2024-08-10T06:59:08Z")
A screenshot from the classic SNL skit: [![](https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000073486400-36iqwr-t500x500.jpg) ](https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000073486400-36iqwr-t500x500.jpg) My favorite from that bit was, “Unce, tice, fee tines a mady.” ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/98 "2024-08-10T09:04:23Z")
Eddie was great. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/99 "2024-08-10T13:53:35Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Well, maybe @GulfTiger can speak for himself. At this point, it doesn’t seem that he wants to do so. Can’t say that I blame him. Most MAGAts either avoid expressing their views and just furtively slither to the polls on election day, or else they start talking to reporters and run away after making asses of themselves. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/100 "2024-08-11T10:14:22Z")
Yeah, disappointing, really. I guess when presented with real evidence, rather than the propaganda of his usual “news” sources (literal Russian propaganda, quite often), he couldn’t face that he had been duped all this time. It’s difficult and painful to accept that you’ve been conned, and basically all Trump supporters have been living in that state for years now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006.md?page=6)