# A thread for Gulftiger to discuss politics

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 30, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006 "2024-07-30T12:02:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-gulftiger-to-discuss-politics/1005006/4 "2024-07-30T12:17:37Z")

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> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12464):
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> All people have the right to keep their reproductive systems healthy and well. productive.

The GOP disagree, and that’s before we get into people (and let’s be clear here - it’s pretty much just women) having their reproductive systems controlled by the government in all sorts of unpleasant and occasionally harmful ways.

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12464):
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> Wage and price controls by governments usually don’t work out.

Don’t they?

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12464):
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> Sweden, Norway and Denmark don’t have minimum wage laws. They let the unions work out what fair pay is. That is more market driven and I’m good with that.

Except that the right have been busily undermining the unions since the Reagan era by every means fair and foul. Which is why wage inequality has expanded so drastically in that time.

But good to know you support labor unions.

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/12464):
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> Police, well there are 2 sides to that coin. Police need to be accountable. I’m not for a police state at all. On the other hand, civilization depends on some fear of consequences for unwelcome behavior and having someone hand them out is necessary. Tough one here.

Nobody is saying there shouldn’t be consequences for “unwelcome behavior”. That’s why we have laws and police who are supposed to enforce them in an even-handed way and be likewise subject to them.

If you’re relying on fear of police brutality to achieve compliance with the law, you’re doing it very, very wrong because you are literally incentivizing “unwelcome behavior” and illegal acts.

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