# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/321 "2023-09-25T22:55:49Z")
Not to mention the way he has talked about Joe Biden. He’s on tape, nearly crying, talking about how there’s not a finer man than Joe. And then turns around an says bad things about him. I can’t imagine ever having a friendship with someone like him. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/322 "2023-09-25T23:22:30Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I can’t imagine ever having a friendship with someone like him. Like most Republicans, he’s fully transactional. “What can you do for me today? How can YOU benefit ME?” ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/323 "2023-09-26T00:57:32Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > He’s on tape, nearly crying, talking about how there’s not a finer man than Joe. cite? When did he say that? He’s had a grudge against Biden for many years, at least since Biden’s “a noun a verb and 9/11” crack. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/324 "2023-09-26T01:01:23Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > He’s on tape, nearly crying, talking about how there’s not a finer man than Joe. Are you thinking of Graham’s tearful tribute to John McCain maybe? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK8Wk6tYeOc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK8Wk6tYeOc) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/325 "2023-09-26T01:12:33Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > > > He’s on tape, nearly crying, talking about how there’s not a finer man than Joe. > > cite? > > When did he say that? He’s had a grudge against Biden for many years, at least since Biden’s “a noun a verb and 9/11” crack. Looks like crossed wires. The “noun, verb, 9/11” crack was, TtBoMK, about Rudy (although I confess to not having known that Biden originated it). I think the “no finer man” praise of Biden was attributed to Lindsey Graham. I’m open to correction, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/326 "2023-09-26T02:59:42Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I think the “no finer man” praise of Biden was attributed to Lindsey Graham. Correction noted. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/327 "2023-09-26T03:11:13Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Once Trump became “the guy” he did a complete 180. > > He’s like that stereotypical character in an 80s film that bullied and/or mocked the protagonist before they did something to become popular, and then starts acting like they’ve always been their friend. He always reminds me of the Dean in Community in the [fake gun scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de4KwN6CjZ8). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/328 "2023-09-26T03:49:47Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Are you thinking of Graham’s tearful tribute to John McCain maybe? Graham definitely said it about Biden. > **[Lindsay Graham called Joe Biden 'as good a man as God ever created' in a...](https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsay-graham-called-joe-biden-good-man-god-ever-created-2019-11)** > > Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of Trump's staunchest allies, praised former Vice President Joe Biden in the highest terms, but is now investigating him. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/329 "2023-09-26T13:17:06Z")
hunter has filed a suit against rudy. someone better sell his condo very soon. [Hunter Biden sues Rudy Giuliani and his former attorney, alleging they tried to hack his devices | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/hunter-biden-rudy-giuliani-lawsuit/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/330 "2023-09-26T13:21:03Z")
Thanks for the help. Sorry for the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/331 "2023-09-26T13:32:38Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > hunter has filed a suit against rudy. someone better sell his condo very soon. The action alleges breach of California privacy law. How does California come into it? I thought the laptop shop was in Delaware, and Rudy and Costello operate out of New York? And an aside: like many of Trump’s former lawyers, Rudy’s former lawyer now needs a lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/332 "2023-09-26T13:42:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The action alleges breach of California privacy law. How does California come into it? I thought the laptop shop was in Delaware, and Rudy and Costello operate out of New York? Good question. I read the complaint (link in the CNN article). They filed this in Federal Court in California and alleged that venue was proper. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a motion to change venue, but they might have enough to keep it in CA. > Venue is proper in this judicial district pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1391(b)(2) and (b)(3), as it is where a substantial part of the events or omissions giving rise to the claim alleged in this complaint occurred or because one or more Defendant is subject to the Court’s personal jurisdiction with respect to this action. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/333 "2023-09-26T13:46:46Z")
And apparently also alleged a breach of California computer privacy laws, which suggests Hunter is alleging some strong connection to California on the facts, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/334 "2023-09-26T13:50:27Z")
I think Hunter Biden lives or lived in California, so that may be sufficient connection. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/335 "2023-09-26T13:53:23Z")
Hunter is alleging protection of the California privacy laws. Those may or may not be effective for violations in New York. I’m skeptical, but there have probably been prior cases I don’t know about that clarify the question. We’ll know in about 30 days. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/336 "2023-09-26T16:34:25Z")
Make Attorneys Get Attorneys! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/337 "2023-09-26T19:43:46Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > like many of Trump’s former lawyers, Rudy’s former lawyer now needs a lawyer. I would not be a lawyer for Rudy’s lawyer, because I would soon need a lawyer to get me out of trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/338 "2023-09-26T19:54:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I would not be a lawyer for Rudy’s lawyer, because I would soon need a lawyer to get me out of trouble… It’s tortles all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/339 "2023-09-26T20:35:25Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > It’s tortles all the way down. Nice. Very nice. j ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/340 "2023-09-26T20:36:08Z")
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