# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/641 "2023-12-22T02:18:04Z")
At this point, being Rudy almost seems like a terrible punishment in itself. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/642 "2023-12-22T05:46:01Z")
Signing up to work on election day is a patriotic act. I am glad the plaintiffs in this case have seen a modicum of justice. But I am happiest about its deterrent value. When cornered, conservatives will continue to make shit up. But scope for wrongdoing is narrowing. Profiteering companies wholly indifferent to truth which produce televised content will no longer make criminal accusations against other companies capable of suffering large monetary damages such as Dominion and Smartmatic. Individuals with a working sense of self-preservation won’t be able to fabricate criminal acts and accuse other individuals of it, even if their targets are of modest means. Fox will still be able to smear private citizens and settle out of court. Their pockets are deep enough and they are not in the truth-telling business. But again the scope for wrongdoing narrows - 149 million dollars is more than a nuisance. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/643 "2023-12-23T16:20:50Z")
A good watch from LegalEagle on Giuliani’s bankruptcy (22 minutes): [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1cdtXoP76qc/maxresdefault.jpg "Rudy Giuliani Ordered to Pay $148 Million, Goes Bankrupt") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cdtXoP76qc) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/644 "2023-12-24T23:43:48Z")
[Heard on his](https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-defamation-for-my-country/) radio program (link is RawStory – _somebody_ has to listen to him, as long as it is not me), > [@Mr Meltyman](#): > > And when I was asked … do you regret anything? … And I thought about it, and I said no because I did it for my country. Now you may elect to believe that or not …You may think I’m self-aggrandizing. I did it all for my country because I knew something my fellow countrymen didn’t know … if you did it for your country, whichever one _that_ is, then you should move there ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/645 "2023-12-25T00:11:59Z")
Rudy paid $24 to “Cricket Debt Counseling” to satisfy the requirement that individuals must take before they are eligible to file for bankruptcy protection. [https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-receives-online-credit-counseling-after-filing-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy/](https://www.rawstory.com/giuliani-receives-online-credit-counseling-after-filing-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy/) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/646 "2023-12-25T02:22:02Z")
With that kind of thrifty saving he’ll make his money back in no time. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/647 "2023-12-25T02:45:59Z")
> [@Mr Meltyman](#): > > I knew something my fellow countrymen didn’t know … If only he had shared that secret information with 60 different courts, he wouldn’t be in this situation now… ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/648 "2023-12-25T04:09:39Z")
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/649 "2023-12-26T00:03:00Z")
Doubtless that helps explain all the flag waving, flag-themed clothes, etc. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/650 "2024-01-02T20:33:06Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > A noun, a verb, and Chapter 11. Thread winner! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/651 "2024-01-02T21:56:13Z")
Yeah, very funny. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/652 "2024-01-30T18:55:59Z")
Rudy’s not had much luck with his high-class GoFundMe PAC. > **[Former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani raises less than $1 million from 13 donors...](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/25/trump-lawyer-rudy-giuliani-raises-less-than-1-million-in-legal-defense-fund.html?recirc=taboolainternal)** > > Rudy Giuliani turned to longtime allies to help pay his massive legal bills. He also saw help from supporters of Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/653 "2024-01-31T02:21:24Z")
My favorite part of the story may be: _Though the Giuliani PAC misspells Caryn Borland’s first name on their filing as “Garyn,”_ At this point I think all Rudy related filings are being solely prepared by a drunk Guiliani ( father or son) hunting and pecking on a manual typewriter. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/654 "2024-01-31T12:51:03Z")
I am no fan of Rudy. I want to be clear about that. He deserves what he’s getting here. That said, it’s pretty terrible how the people he went to bat for can’t seem to be arsed to throw him a bone. Unless Trump really is broke (I acknowledge a real possibility) I think he owes Rudy something. And I don’t just mean unpaid legal bills. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/655 "2024-01-31T13:16:13Z")
I don’t have any morsel of sympathy for anyone who worked for the fucker, got stiffed and thrown under the bus, because anyone with half a brain cell should know that Trump stiffs everybody he does business with and never rewards loyalty. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/656 "2024-01-31T15:45:41Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > That said, it’s pretty terrible how the people he went to bat for can’t seem to be arsed to throw him a bone. You lie down with amoral sociopathic shitheads, you wake up with nothing. AKA he never expected the leopards to eat _his_ face. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/657 "2024-01-31T17:59:53Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I don’t have any morsel of sympathy for anyone who worked for the fucker, got stiffed and thrown under the bus. . . Especially those who helped Trump screw people over. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/658 "2024-01-31T18:06:08Z")
Yeah, that was implied, everyone who ever does work for Trump should be clear that they work for one of the most amoral persons in the world and helps his case, even his janitor or his IT admin. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/659 "2024-01-31T19:56:58Z")
I may not have been clear. I wasn’t expressing any sympathy for Rudy. Just a little surprise that there apparently really is no bottom to Trump’s scumminess. I’ve known some pretty shitty people, and even they had at least a couple of people they were good to. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/660 "2024-01-31T20:13:33Z")
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