# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/681 "2024-05-03T15:40:58Z")

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5 Trumpbux says it was a self-flushing urinal, and buddy here was too stupid to note that it flushed itself.

With MAGAts, you always have to look for the stupidest explanation.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/682 "2024-05-03T15:58:48Z")

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See? Even when he’s just bat-shit crazy, he’s STILL wrong:

> Trump claimed Americans are "flushing their toilets “10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once”

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/683 "2024-05-03T16:05:45Z")

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Toiletgate!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/684 "2024-05-03T22:51:59Z")

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Sir, please stop trying to flush your diaper. It’s really making maintenance unhappy.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/685 "2024-05-04T00:15:53Z")

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I can’t get this one out of my mind. Flushgate.

I have a go-to comment:

_The GOP seems to think this is a zero sum game – if Biden is guilty of something, that automatically makes Trump NOT guilty of something._

Andrew Giuliani has – for all time – redefined false equivalence.

Even if the anecdote _is_ true, the notion that it somehow compares to, or diminishes the boundless evil of, _everything_ his father has done is simply risible.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/686 "2024-05-07T00:16:10Z")

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ETA: @Euphonious_Polemic 4-5 posts up.

Although at one point my firm shared a floor in an office building with the election campaign of US Sen Ron Talent (R-MO). Now _former_ senator thank goodness.

From firsthand (yecch) knowledge I can assure you the Senator does _not_ wash his hands after either #1 or #2. Too busy I suppose.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/687 "2024-05-08T00:57:16Z")

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/688 "2024-05-08T01:31:39Z")

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Pardon me; could you please repeat that? I didn’t quite catch it.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/689 "2024-05-08T02:14:23Z")

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No. It was wildly OT and had the potential for hurting some feelings.

Witty, though.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/690 "2024-05-08T16:06:53Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> No. It was wildly OT and had the potential for hurting some feelings.

If you want to post something about Rudy that’s not appropriate to this thread, you can revive the most recent Pit thread devoted to Rudy:

> [@WAY more than you wanted to know about Rudy Giuliani](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/way-more-than-you-wanted-to-know-about-rudy-giuliani/984095):
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> I was going to start this in P&E but frankly there’s zero chance it wouldn’t end up in the Pit anyway, as you will see. Also: Trigger Warning as the linked document gives details of sexual assault. Short version: Former employee Noelle Dunphy has filed a legal complaint against Rudy Giuliani for “unlawful abuses of power, wide-ranging sexual assault and harassment, wage theft, and other misconduct”. The full complaint is now available online, and all I can say about it is holy shit, Rudy is an…

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/691 "2024-05-13T14:21:57Z")

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Rudy gets fired.

The radio company that has been paying him $400,000 a year to spout has shut the tap.

Apparently management, possibly spooked by the Fox - Dominion lawsuit, ordered him to stop saying the 2020 election was stolen.

Rudy of course ignored that.

So he’s been shown the door, losing his last bit of steady income.

Rudy says that being fired by a private company is a breach of his 1st Amendment rights.

> **[Rudy Giuliani’s radio talk show gets axed after one too many 2020 election lies](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/rudy-giuliani-talk-show-canceled-rcna151802)**
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> WABC radio’s owner John Catsimatidis said he felt “very bad” about canceling Giuliani’s show “because he is still America’s mayor, but we need to know where to draw the line.”

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/692 "2024-05-13T14:25:59Z")

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Nm double post

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/693 "2024-05-13T15:17:58Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Rudy says that being fired by a private company is a breach of his 1st Amendment rights.

Christ, does he believe that? He’s a lawyer. He ought to know how the 1st works.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/694 "2024-05-13T15:19:18Z")

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He also ought to know that you need evidence to challenge an election for fraud in 60 different court cases.

Yet, here we are.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/695 "2024-05-13T15:55:59Z")

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He didn’t actually challenge for fraud, though. His usual claim was that the mail-in votes are unconstitutional, and so should be excluded. Legally wrong, but it takes a lawyer to explain why it’s wrong.

The 1st is much simpler.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/696 "2024-05-13T17:38:47Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> He’s a lawyer. He ought to know how the 1st works.

He almost certainly does. But he also knows his base are morons and outrage is fuel for the grift.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/697 "2024-05-13T18:49:13Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> He’s a lawyer. He ought to know how the 1st works.

It doesn’t matter what Rudy knows, it’s what his gullible audience believes that matters.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/698 "2024-05-13T19:10:38Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Rudy says that being fired by a private company is a breach of his 1st Amendment rights.

So, life imitates art.  
[![](https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2018/08/silenced.png?w=1200&ssl=1) ](https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2018/08/silenced.png?w=1200&ssl=1)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/699 "2024-05-13T19:31:49Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> > [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> > He’s a lawyer. He ought to know how the 1st works.
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> He almost certainly does. But he also knows his base are morons and outrage is fuel for the grift.

Exactly. As I’ve said before, they’re not that stupid, they just think (know) their base is. Also, he can say it’s a 1A violation to the media/public all day long. But I bet he won’t say it to a judge.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/700 "2024-05-13T23:48:26Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> The radio company that has been paying him $400,000 a year to spout

I’ve mentioned in other threads that I listen to WABC for the latest right wing nut job news, and the fact that Rudy makes(made) 400K for that drivel is both amusing and disheartening.

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