# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/701 "2024-05-14T12:15:05Z")
Definitely more on the disheartening side. IMJO J=Jealous ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/702 "2024-05-14T13:01:18Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > He also ought to know that you need evidence to challenge an election for fraud in 60 different court cases. He also ought to know that marrying in your family tree looks weird, but 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/703 "2024-05-15T23:01:26Z")
Darn the luck! > A federal judge in New York on Tuesday rejected a bid by Rudy Giuliani to appeal the $146 million judgment levied against him for defaming two 2020 election workers [https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/i-am-disturbed-judge-overseeing-giuliani-bankruptcy-castigates-former-mayors-troubling-attitude-vis-a-vis-the-law-rejects-bid-to-appeal-148-million-defamation-judgment/](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/i-am-disturbed-judge-overseeing-giuliani-bankruptcy-castigates-former-mayors-troubling-attitude-vis-a-vis-the-law-rejects-bid-to-appeal-148-million-defamation-judgment/) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/704 "2024-05-16T00:00:34Z")
If you’re wondering how he could be denied an appeal, as far as I can tell it’s because he filed for bankruptcy. In that case the court controls his assets and liabilities in large part, and this judgment is certainly a liability. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/705 "2024-05-16T00:12:16Z")
[Rudy has a girlfriend???](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/ranting-rudy-giuliani-encourages-girlfriend-and-fired-co-host-to-sue-wabc-over-hostile-work-environment-but-theres-just-one-problem/) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/706 "2024-05-17T00:32:41Z")
If someone sees him, please give Arizona a call: > **[Arizona officials say they can’t find Rudy Giuliani to serve him with...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/14/politics/arizona-officials-giuliani-indictment-2020/index.html)** > > Arizona prosecutors have tried for weeks – and so far failed – to serve Rudy Giuliani with notice of his indictment related to an alleged scheme to overturn the 2020 election results in that state. Maybe the prosecutors are just sleepy. I have the solution! > **[Rudy Guiliani launches bizarre coffee brand as he grapples with crippling...](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/rudy-giuliani-coffee-brand-bankrupt-b2545796.html)** > > Giuliani says ‘one constant thing’ in his life has been ‘a good cup of coffee, which is now proven to have health benefits’ ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/707 "2024-05-17T01:33:39Z")
Substituting bourbon for coffee could open up a whole new revenue stream. > He doesn’t get behind anything he doesn’t believe in, and as an avid consumer of coffee (due to his demanding work schedule) he’s 100 per cent behind this product and brand, and as they say, ‘don’t knock it until you try it’,” he added. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/708 "2024-05-18T11:12:32Z")
Update: > ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/709 "2024-05-18T12:53:08Z")
That’s after he posted and deleted a taunt, I gather. AG Kris Mayes had already saved a screenshot of it before he deleted it. I can’t get it to copy here, Dang it. You can see it in the above tweet by John if you scroll down a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/710 "2024-05-18T13:19:02Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > That’s after he posted and deleted a taunt, I gather. AG Kris Mayes had already saved a screenshot of it before he deleted it. > > I can’t get it to copy here, Dang it. Here ya go. [![](https://i.ibb.co/6rbN0Kz/IMG-1824.png) ](https://i.ibb.co/6rbN0Kz/IMG-1824.png) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/711 "2024-05-18T13:20:01Z")
Thank you. He’s is such an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/712 "2024-05-18T13:26:16Z")
I want to learn more about the assertion that if they can’t find him and serve him by tomorrow they have to dismiss the indictment. Is that a thing? Do indictments expire with the GJ that issues them if the indictee isn’t served or something? (Also I read the AG’s xit as “months ago,” which didn’t seem to make a lot of sense, I admit. It actually says “moments ago.”) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/713 "2024-05-18T13:42:03Z")
New York Post has an article about it. Rudy was having a 80th birthday party in Florida and got served there, shortly after he was singing “New York New York” to the guests. > **[Rudy Giuliani served with Arizona ‘fake electors’ indictment during 80th...](https://nypost.com/2024/05/18/us-news/rudy-giuliani-served-with-arizona-fake-electors-indictment-during-80th-birthday-bash-in-palm-beach/)** > > Giuliani was the last of the 18 defendants in the case to be served, Arizona officials said. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/714 "2024-05-18T13:52:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I want to learn more about the assertion that if they can’t find him and serve him by tomorrow they have to dismiss the indictment. Is that a thing? Do indictments expire with the GJ that issues them if the indictee isn’t served or something? I’m not aware of it, and I couldn’t find anything like it when googling Arizona procedure (it’s possible he was using “must” where a real person would have used “should”). In fact, Giuliani ought to consider himself lucky. It looks like he was served with a summons, which is a notice to appear in court. They could have just issued an arrest warrant instead. (Now, if he doesn’t make his court date, a warrant for arrest will be issued). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/715 "2024-05-18T14:27:48Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I’m not aware of it, and I couldn’t find anything like it when googling Arizona procedure (it’s possible he was using “must” where a real person would have used “should”). It may also be possible that he was just spouting bullshit in order to try to convince the court of public opinion. Not that he has ever done anything like that before. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/716 "2024-05-18T14:43:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > New York Post has an article about it. Rudy was having a 80th birthday party in Florida and got served there, shortly after he was singing “New York New York” to the guests. This article is _chef’s kiss_. > [@](#): > > In front of nearly 75 guests, two officials with Arizona’s attorney general’s office arrived at the shindig around 11 p.m. to hand Giuliani the papers > … > “While crime in Arizona is at an all-time high the Arizona Secretary of State’s office felt it was a good use of resources to send multiple agents across the country to storm an 80th birthday party like it was Normandy,” said Caroline Wren, a top GOP consultant, who hosted the birthday party at her home. For the younger Dopers out there, she’s referencing the Battle of Normandy, in which a battalion of two British soldiers knocked on Hitler’s door and handed him some papers. Hyperbole aside, I do love how her analogy casts Arizona as the Allied forces and her own side as literal Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/717 "2024-05-18T14:47:57Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > For the younger Dopers out there, she’s referencing the Battle of Normandy, in which a battalion of two British soldiers knocked on Hitler’s door and handed him some papers. Okay, that was clever. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/718 "2024-05-18T14:49:09Z")
> [@](#): > > “In Arizona, and the United States, the people elected Joseph Biden as President on November 3, 2020,” the indictment says. “Unwilling to accept this fact, Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters.” It’d be fun if, during upcoming presidential debates, Biden referred to his opponent exclusively as “Unindicted Co-Conspirator 1”, although there’d be confusion with actual indictments. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/719 "2024-05-18T15:24:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Is that a thing? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olly\_olly\_oxen\_free](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olly_olly_oxen_free) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/720 "2024-05-18T15:27:18Z")
The next step is for Rudy to serve them back, at which point [it’s on](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bU-IynCHcE8). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=37)