# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/781 "2024-07-10T13:34:25Z")
At some point Rudy’s going to have to pay _somebody_. Including his own bankruptcy lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/782 "2024-07-10T13:46:35Z")
May be he’s trying to run out the clock? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/783 "2024-07-10T13:55:11Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Dammit, you corrected the misspelling, meaning my “Rudy is officially Baroque” joke will no longer play. So you mean he’s out of Monet? Press on. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/784 "2024-07-10T15:04:18Z")
He still has plenty but there is so much price gauguin these days. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/785 "2024-07-10T15:06:40Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > At some point Rudy’s going to have to pay _somebody_. Reminds me of David Lindley’s song: Pay the man Everybody’s got to pay the man And before you leave this world You got to pay the man Pay the man Everybody’s got to pay the man And before you leave this world You got to paaaaaay the man Of the senators in the fancy houses He’s a friend of Babylon Got a wife and a dog and a cadillac And people on the run Got his ways and means and all he needs To keep him satisfied But before he leaves this world He’s got to pay the man ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/786 "2024-07-11T02:56:57Z")
He waits it out, demands only his booze and a studio slum apartment, dies before all the bills come, until we get to the Orange-eulogy at services with, “Rudy was a good guy, I’m told. I never met the man…” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/787 "2024-07-12T05:30:55Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Orange-eulogy The Gonzo Bronzo ain’t got no time for such things, he’s too busy golfing and ranting on social media. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/788 "2024-07-12T08:42:43Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Imma guess kompromat. What can they possibly have that makes him look even worse? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/789 "2024-07-12T10:05:23Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > His creditors in bankruptcy proceedings are applying to the court to have a court-appointed monitor of his assets, My tired eyes misread this as a “couth-appointed monitor” which also makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/790 "2024-07-12T11:34:17Z")
The judge is apparently considering ending the bankruptcy proceedings, which would end the current stays on all the lawsuits against Giuliani. That would also allow him to appeal the verdict against him in the civil suit brought by the two Georgia election workers. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/ex-trump-attorney-giuliani-heads-bankruptcy-reckoning-2024-07-10/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/ex-trump-attorney-giuliani-heads-bankruptcy-reckoning-2024-07-10/) ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/791 "2024-07-12T19:14:28Z")
And Rudy is out of bankruptcy and must remain out for one year. Creditors better get to collecting. I laughed at the remark from the judge (actually reported in Northern Piper’s link) saying that given Rudy’s lack of cooperation so far, a court appointed monitor would be pointless. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-ends-giuliani-bankruptcy-heightening-legal-risks-2024-07-12/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-ends-giuliani-bankruptcy-heightening-legal-risks-2024-07-12/) ---
**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/792 "2024-07-12T21:36:59Z")
I don’t understand how this bankruptcy stuff works, but Rudy has apparently [undervalued some personal items.](https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-bankruptcy-court-creditors-ruby-freeman-donald-trump-1923906) So how does this work? If the court accepts his valuation, are the items somehow exempt from forfeiture as personal items? Or is the hope that the creditors won’t bother going after such penny-ante stuff? > For example, the Debtor values the following jewelry at a total of $30,000: "costume jewelry; diamond ring; three Yankee World Series rings, two Bulova watches, five Shinola watches, one Tiffany & Co watch, one Seiko watch, one Frank Muller watch, one Graham watch, one Corum watch, one Rolex, two IWC watches, one Invicta watch, two Breitling watches, one Raymond Weil watch, one Baume & Mercier watch, and six unnamed watches. According to the article, a single Yankee World Series ring could be worth almost $30,000. Can this approach wind up hurting Rudy, in that the court says he can’t keep them as personal items, but they will be valued at $30k? Because if it weren’t that I want Freeman and Moss to get every penny the SOB owes them, I’d be tempted to see if I can’t buy them for, say, $35,000. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/793 "2024-07-12T21:40:14Z")
Apparently, Rudy doesn’t know the difference between shit and Shinola. ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/794 "2024-07-12T22:01:47Z")
This previous May, he was fired from his daily one hour program on WABC radio in New York City, for continuing to claim voter fraud in 2020. > **[Statement of WABC Radio by John Catsimatidis, CEO: | 77 WABC](https://wabcradio.com/2024/05/13/statement-of-wabc-radio-by-john-catsimatidis-ceo/)** > > Statement of WABC Radio by John Catsimatidis, CEO: As I said in my text to Rudy Giuliani on Saturday morning, the good news is we only argue every 40 years. I've supported Mayor Giuliani for deca ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/795 "2024-07-13T06:32:53Z")
Jesus. Twenty-six watches. And apparently not one of them can tell him what time it is (i.e. _time_ to give up). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/796 "2024-07-13T14:16:14Z")
> [@xizor](#): > > I laughed at the remark from the judge (actually reported in Northern Piper’s link) saying that given Rudy’s lack of cooperation so far, a court appointed monitor would be pointless. Can’t the court toss him in the clink until he decides to be more cooperative? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/797 "2024-07-13T15:16:58Z")
It’s a civil matter and judges are reluctant to use jail in civil matters. Far more effective to take away the protection of the bankruptcy proceedings. Remember, it was Rudy who started the bankruptcy case to try and get some protections from his creditors. Now, instead of an orderly approach, with one court case and limits on collections by his creditors, Rudy faces a litigation free-for-all, where every creditor can sue him in separate court proceedings and if successful, start collection proceedings. Well played, Rudy! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/798 "2024-07-13T15:38:36Z")
A testament to his keen legal expertise, to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/799 "2024-07-13T18:54:39Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Jesus. Twenty-six watches. And apparently not one of them can tell him what time it is (i.e. _time_ to give up). _You wanna buy a watch? I know you ain’t got a watch, because if you had a watch, you’d know it’s nighttime, and nighttime ain’t no time to be in this here neighborhood._ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/800 "2024-07-13T19:00:16Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > _You wanna buy a watch? I know you ain’t got a watch, because if you had a watch, you’d know it’s nighttime, and nighttime ain’t no time to be in this here neighborhood._ Hah! Now I’m envisioning Rudy skulking around with twenty-six watches pinned to the lining of his overcoat! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=41)