# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/861 "2024-09-26T16:37:29Z")

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About time:

> **[Rudy Giuliani disbarred in D.C., months after disbarment in New York](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-disbarred-washington-dc/)**
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> Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani has been disbarred from practicing law in the nation's capital, a D.C. appeals court ruled.

> Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who represented former President Donald Trump in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results, has been disbarred from practicing law in the District of Columbia, a local appeals court ruled Thursday.
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> Giuliani’s law license in the District of Columbia [had been temporarily suspended](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-law-license-suspended-washington-dc/) since the summer 2021, but the [one-page decision](https://www.dccourts.gov/sites/default/files/2024-09/In%20re%20Giuliani%20%2021-BG-0423.pdf) from the District of Columbia Court of Appeals orders the former federal prosecutor to be disbarred. [Records](https://my.dcbar.org/directorymemberships?id=0014z00001kYbnUAAS) show Giuliani was admitted to the D.C. Bar in 1976.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/862 "2024-09-26T16:40:15Z")

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I have seen Rudy now being referred to as “disbarred lawyer”, including on his Wikipedia page. Quite nice.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/863 "2024-09-26T17:39:36Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I have seen Rudy now being referred to as “disbarred lawyer”, including on his Wikipedia page.

There are a lot of shady lawyers. Relatively few get disbarred. It’s a disgrace (and well earned)

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/864 "2024-09-26T22:53:15Z")

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You know who else was a disbarred lawyer? Fred Phelps (of the Westboro Baptist “Church”). Just hope Rudy doesn’t get any ideas for another career path.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/865 "2024-09-26T22:54:42Z")

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He’s in a cult now…

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/866 "2024-09-26T23:24:02Z")

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And despite his history is no longer a dynamic leader type.

I just want to see him as a skid row bum dyinig in a gutter this winter.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/867 "2024-09-27T00:41:47Z")

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[note, this post has been entirely re-written at the last moment, at great expense!]

I sympathize @LSLGuy - I really do. But the sad part is, those with any degree of real wealth are protected by the laws better than those with far less to lose.

BUT … all the things I was going to say aren’t appropriate for this P&E thread, so I posted them in the “Way more than you wanted to know…” Rudy Pit thread. Just saying that we save a mod some work!

😉

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/868 "2024-09-27T01:05:43Z")

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You’re right. I overdid that for this forum. Oops and apologies to one and all.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/869 "2024-09-27T04:06:58Z")

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Here’s a Forbes article that gives a run-down of all the Trump lawyers who are facing discipline, civil suits, and / or criminal charges.

It’s not paywalled, but Forbes only gives 4 freebies a month, so if you’ve already used that up, you’ll have to wait.

We don’t have threads for each lawyer, so I thought I’d post it here for general background info.

> **[Giuliani Disbarred In D.C.: Here Are All The Other Ex-Trump Lawyers Now...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/09/26/kenneth-chesebro-charged-in-wisconsin-here-are-all-the-former-trump-lawyers-now-facing-legal-consequences/)**
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> Giuliani was stripped of his law license in Washington, D.C., months after being disbarred in New York.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/870 "2024-09-30T21:45:10Z")

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And a sad article from Rudy’s daughter;

> **[Rudy Giuliani’s Daughter: Trump Took My Dad From Me. Please Don’t Let Him...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/caroline-giuliani-trump-kamala-harris)**
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> “Nothing I have experienced prepared me for the very public and relentless implosion of my father’s life,” writes Caroline Giuliani, announcing her support for Kamala Harris.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/871 "2024-09-30T22:00:47Z")

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Very sad. I often forget the personal aspect of such circumstances. He’s somebody’s dad. Somebody who is ashamed and sad and still loves him. Makes her endorsement all the more powerful.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/872 "2024-09-30T22:17:31Z")

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Blocked by membership pop-up.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/873 "2024-09-30T23:14:48Z")

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Dépends how many articles you read in a month. I think that was my last one for a while.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/874 "2024-10-01T13:52:07Z")

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But if I haven’t read Vanity Fair in ages, then I’m scratching my head here.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/875 "2024-10-01T17:00:54Z")

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That was a very powerful and well-written article; thanks for sharing.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/876 "2024-10-01T17:29:12Z")

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@Guest-starring_Id here’s an article with a number of quotes from the Vanity Fair article:

> **[Rudy Giuliani’s daughter backs Harris and grieves ‘loss of my dad to Trump’](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/rudy-giuliani-daughter-supports-harris)**
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> Caroline Rose Giuliani decries ‘destructive’ Trump and calls relationship with father ‘cartoonishly complicated’

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/877 "2024-10-01T18:28:20Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Very sad. I often forget the personal aspect of such circumstances. He’s somebody’s dad. Somebody who is ashamed and sad and still loves him. Makes her endorsement all the more powerful.

He’s son is a Trumper. Does that make you feel better or worse?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/878 "2024-10-01T18:42:01Z")

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It makes me feel worse for her, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/879 "2024-10-01T18:48:53Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> > [@Stratocaster](#):
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> > Very sad. I often forget the personal aspect of such circumstances. He’s somebody’s dad. Somebody who is ashamed and sad and still loves him. Makes her endorsement all the more powerful.
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> He’s son is a Trumper. Does that make you feel better or worse?

For her? I guess worse. The son can go fuck himself.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/880 "2024-10-01T22:42:25Z")

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Thank-you.  
Bringing to mind Mary Trump - another sane person inveighing against a monster that she has close ties to.

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