# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/947 "2024-11-27T17:27:35Z")
> [@](#): > > But first, Judge Lewis Liman allowed Mr. Giuliani’s lawyers to withdraw from the case. They had requested [to be removed](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/us/politics/giuliani-lawyers-quit-defamation-case.html) two weeks ago, citing an unspecified “professional ethics” concern. > > “I’m sorry it came to this,” Kenneth Caruso, one of Mr. Giuliani’s lawyers, said before he and his co-counsel left the hearing. > > In a statement on Tuesday, Mr. Caruso said that there had been “a difference of opinion” with Mr. Giuliani but they wished his new counsel “every success.” Did they say this with a straight face? I’d forgotten that he’s also facing contempt of court hearings in Washington. And I hadn’t realized that, while he’s turned his car over to the election workers, **he hasn’t given them the keys or the title**. What a dick. > [@](#): > > As he left the courthouse, Mr. Giuliani repeated his grievances at a prepared microphone stand about being targeted for political ends. A heckler shouted at Mr. Giuliani as he walked to a waiting car. > > “You got nothing now!” the man said. “You’re a bum!” > > Mr. Giuliani smiled and turned toward the man. > > “I wouldn’t bet against me,” he said. He’s got nothing left he can bet _with_. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/948 "2024-11-27T18:42:46Z")
Hmmmm…… This article mentions that Rudy’s belongings are in a Long Island storage facility called The America First Warehouse. I pulled up some links and The America First Warehouse does not, on the surface, even appear to be a storage facility. It’s an event space geared to hosting right wing trolls, and they also have an online store that sells a wide variety of overpriced “patriotic” merchandise, including Rudy Coffee - although if “Rudy Coffee” contains the kind of drugs I suspect it does, it may actually be cheap. They are also trying to sell this Rudy-themed artwork for 50K, good luck with that! > **[Scott LoBaido's Rudy Giuliani Tribute Painting – ORIGINAL | America First](https://www.theamericafirstwarehouse.com/product-page/scott-lobaido-rudy-giuliani-tribute-painting)** > > YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PIECE OF HISTORY ... Tribute Painting to America’s Mayor – ORIGINALBy Renowned Artist and Patriot Activist, Scott LoBaido This incredible painting of a genuine American hero – America’s Mayor, Rudy Giuliani – was done live... This facility seems so closely tied to Rudy that I suspect he has deep connections to the owners or a hidden financial stake, probably both. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/949 "2024-11-27T18:54:12Z")
Who would ferret out stuff like this, the plaintiffs or the court? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/950 "2024-11-27T19:27:44Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Who would ferret out stuff like this, the plaintiffs or the court The plaintiffs. The court has no mechanism for that kind of investigation. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/951 "2024-11-27T19:34:56Z")
I daresay Rudy’s now-departed lawyers had a sealed hearing with the judge before the dismissal of them as counsel in open court, to explain the reasons for their request to withdraw. Would love to have been a fly on the wall to hear that. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/952 "2024-11-27T19:43:16Z")
This answers the age old question: if the exact opposite of all that I am and all that I represent were a business entity … ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/953 "2024-11-27T21:27:25Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The court has no mechanism for that kind of investigation. I was thinking marshals might. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/954 "2024-11-27T23:15:48Z")
From the America First link from above, there’s a video showing Mr. Lobaido earnestly giving Mr. McNaughton a good run for his money. (click on fifth thumbnail) > **[Scott LoBaido's Rudy Giuliani Tribute Painting – ORIGINAL | America First](https://www.theamericafirstwarehouse.com/product-page/scott-lobaido-rudy-giuliani-tribute-painting)** > > YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A PIECE OF HISTORY ... Tribute Painting to America’s Mayor – ORIGINALBy Renowned Artist and Patriot Activist, Scott LoBaido This incredible painting of a genuine American hero – America’s Mayor, Rudy Giuliani – was done live... ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/955 "2024-11-28T01:03:12Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@Procrustus](#): > > > > The court has no mechanism for that kind of investigation. > > I was thinking marshals might. Marshals and bailiffs enforce court orders. If the plaintiff finds assets of the defendnant, the pliantiff can get the court to issue an order authorisiging the possession, and the marshals or bailiffs can then enforce that order. But marshals and bailiffs don’t do the investigations. It’s up to the plaintiff to do that. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/956 "2024-11-28T21:03:39Z")
There’s an entire industry of asset recovery specialists who assist with, among other things collecting on legal judgments. Like these folks: > **[Judgment Enforcement - Judgment Enforcement Services - Omni Bridgeway](https://omnibridgeway.com/litigation-funding/judgment-enforcement?gad_source=1)** > > As the world’s most experienced foreign judgment enforcement team, we are uniquely qualified to advise clients on how to safeguard collectability. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/957 "2024-11-29T00:06:55Z")
And when there’s a judgment of $143 M, that’s a strong incentive for asset hunters to start working. I think it’s doubtful Rudy had that much, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had money stashed in the Caymans or somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/958 "2024-12-08T03:23:17Z")
And two more developments in the Rudy case in NY Federal Court: 1. The two plaintiffs have alleged that in livestreams, Rudy has continued to defame them. They have applied for him to be held in contempt. That hearing is set for December 12. 2. The two plaintiffs have alleged that Rudy has continued to refuse to hand over the documents relating to his property that the Court has ordered transferred. The Court has ordered Giuliani to file his response by December 19, for a contempt hearing on January 3. On this latter point, their filing states: > [@](#): > > The plaintiffs have asked U.S. District Judge Lewis Liman to hold Giuliani in civil contempt and to impose sanctions on him for “attempting to stonewall what should be a straightforward and abbreviated process.” > > “It seems that Mr. Giuliani may be refusing to comply with the Orders in an attempt, at least in part, to force the Court to accept further delay,” their lawyers said in the filing. “Mr. Giuliani’s gamesmanship and willful disregard for court orders and the burdens his litigation misconduct has inflicted on the parties and the Court warrant the entry of these severe sanctions.” > **[Rudy Giuliani’s legal woes pile up as he allegedly ignores court orders in...](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/rudy-giuliani-freeman-moss-contempt-florida-condo-rcna183320)** > > Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss have asked a federal judge to hold Giuliani in contempt and to impose sanctions on him for failing to follow court orders. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/959 "2024-12-08T03:34:58Z")
You know what? That’s unacceptable. He should be disbarr… …oh. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/960 "2024-12-08T23:27:35Z")
I favor jail. Riker’s Island is nice this time of year. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/961 "2024-12-09T21:08:48Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > I favor jail. I’d say that it’s more likely than not that he’ll end up there. You can slap the tiger only so many times before it rips your arm off. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/962 "2024-12-12T05:47:22Z")
I wonder if any of the mob guys he prosecuted are still there? They would probably let bygones be bygones and laugh and reminisce 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/963 "2024-12-13T16:17:55Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > And two more developments in the Rudy case in NY Federal Court: > > 1. The two plaintiffs have alleged that in livestreams, Rudy has continued to defame them. They have applied for him to be held in contempt. That hearing is set for December 12. December 12 has come and gone - I can find no news about this hearing. Did something change? j ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/964 "2024-12-13T17:01:00Z")
He got a 30 day extension because he can’t get a lawyer. Says no lawyer will touch it because the judge is so biased against him. Interesting argument to advance. > **[Federal judge threatens Rudy Giuliani with 'arsenal of sanctions' and...](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/rudy-giuliani-threatened-with-arsenal-of-sanctions-and-imprisonment-after-he-blamed-judges-ideological-demeanor-for-him-being-unable-to-hire-an-attorney/amp/)** > > A federal judge threatened Rudy Giuliani with sanctions and imprisonment after he missed the deadline to respond to a request that he be held in contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/965 "2024-12-13T17:39:59Z")
Ah. Thanks, I had missed that. j ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/966 "2024-12-13T17:42:58Z")
Empty threats yet again? How many times was Trump threatened without any follow through? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=49)