# A thread for Rudy {Rudy Giuliani} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355 "2023-08-16T04:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1007 "2025-01-04T16:28:04Z")
Why do I get the feeling that a couple days in the slammer would do wonders to improve his memory. Well, it couldn’t hurt to try it out. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1008 "2025-01-04T18:37:02Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Rudy appears to have had some success in staving off contempt No, that’s not accurate. I’ve checked and I still feel the same way about him. And as for being disorganized, wasn’t the person who was helping him organize stuff the same person he sexually harassed? So gee, I wonder why he’s disorganized. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1009 "2025-01-06T23:22:47Z")
> **[Giuliani held in contempt and hit with sanctions for defying court orders](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/rudy-giuliani-election-defamation-contempt-b2674478.html)** > > Trump’s former attorney showed ‘blithe disregard’ for court’s orders as he tried to ‘run out the clock,’ judge says ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1010 "2025-01-06T23:40:46Z")
Love those court sketches! They really capture the Rudiness of the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1011 "2025-01-07T00:20:54Z")
I get the impression the sketch artists were not impressed by Mr Giuliani. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1012 "2025-01-07T00:29:57Z")
I think they just watched _Superman II_ too many times. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1013 "2025-01-07T01:06:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Giuliani feared his answers would be used against him in other cases or in attempts to impeach him, he testified Monday. Impeach him from what, exactly? Also, he’s got yet another contempt hearing coming up in Washington on Friday. It’s going well, I see. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1014 "2025-01-07T01:28:43Z")
Impeachment is a legal term for challenging the credibility of a witness. He’s afraid that what’s he said in these proceedings could be used to challenge his credibility in other (civil) proceedings. Fifth Amendment doesn’t apply in civil matters. “One tells so many ~~lies~~ stories, it’s hard to keep them all straight.” > **[impeachment of a witness](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/impeachment_of_a_witness)** ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1015 "2025-01-07T01:30:54Z")
ETA: Comprehensively ninja’d by a pro. Oh well. Not “impeach” as in “remove from government office”. It’s “impeach” as in “impeach the witness” as in cause jurors to believe the witness’s testimony is untrustworthy because you introduce evidence they’ve told very different tales under oath before. IOW: “Mr. Giuliani, were you lying then or are you lying now?”. Not a question anyone testifying, but especially a defendant, wants to be asked. Of course when all the testimony he’s ever given is just a convenient spur of the moment lie, then every bit of testimony can be viewed as dangerous to not only this trial, but any other. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1016 "2025-01-07T03:04:50Z")
Maybe this Friday they can set up some sort of “oops - lied!” buzz-thingy in the courtroom. I believe that sketch artist is the same one for **Fear Itself** ’s user id photo. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1017 "2025-01-07T10:59:02Z")
From one article: ““It’s tragic to watch as our justice system has been turned into a total mockery, where we have charades instead of actual hearings and trials,” Giuliani and his spokesperson Ted Goodman said in a statement after Monday’s hearing. He’s right, just not in the way he means. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1018 "2025-01-07T12:36:37Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sBlhrTpi69E/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sBlhrTpi69E/maxresdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1019 "2025-01-07T14:02:34Z")
It’s rare when you can hear a photo. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1020 "2025-01-07T15:40:42Z")
> [@Maus\_Magill](#): > > It’s rare when you can hear a photo That’s, honestly, the reason I picked one without the caption. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1021 "2025-01-07T15:59:59Z")
Genius there **Joey** ; sheer genius. Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1022 "2025-01-07T16:57:49Z")
Wondering if Ted Goodman is any relation to Saul. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1023 "2025-01-07T17:23:34Z")
Maybe a few weeks in a jail cell would jog his memory as to where things are. What a total POS this guy is. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1024 "2025-01-16T22:08:26Z")
I am 100% completely positively sure he will 100% completely positively adhere to the terms of this settlement. [https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/16/rudy-giuliani-georgia-defamation-settlement-00198755](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/16/rudy-giuliani-georgia-defamation-settlement-00198755) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355/1025 "2025-01-16T22:12:41Z")
Since the reporting on CNN indicated that Ghouliani would also be keeping a number of items that were already ordered surrendered but he’d been slow about… Sounds like the fix is in. Someone bailed him out, with enough money to keep the defamed happy (although certainly a tiny fraction of what is owed). Sadly, spoiled for choice on that front. And, in addition to the existing, closed, and paused Trump suits, it pretty much puts paid to the USA as a nation of laws. Because you can just keep NOT complying forever, be held in contempt, and still nothing happens, while those seeking justice are targeted by violence, threats, and exhaustion of trying to actually get the courts to move forward in the face of smirking non-compliance. Bad times. Makes me wonder that if the next step (on either side of the political divide mind you) is going to be similar to our UHC murderer, albeit with more cause. “You honor, the courts ordered my non-custodial spouse return my child, and my assets to me. He didn’t for 2 years. So I killed that spouse. You can convict me, but I ask that you also convict their attorneys, the prior courts, and the rest of your fucked up system that refuses to actually follow through on your own laws when the person owed justice isn’t white/rich/powerful.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-rudy-rudy-giuliani/989355.md?page=50)