# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1981 "2018-01-25T16:03:26Z")
Yesterday SHS said something to the effect of that when Trump says there is no collusion that he is only speaking for himself and his own knowledge. I’m guessing this is presaging a show about to drop that a campaign link in coming. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1982 "2018-01-25T16:07:02Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What is a thump oath worth on the open market? A perjury conviction. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1983 "2018-01-25T16:22:53Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Just so we’re clear, Trump wasn’t obstructing justice, he was “[fighting back](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370620-trump-fighting-back-against-russia-probe-is-not-obstruction)” against the investigation. Big difference. It’s a witch hunt, so he fought back by consorting with the Devil and riding a flying broom. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1984 "2018-01-25T16:25:26Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I read somewhere that thump said he would testify “under oath.” What is a thump oath worth on the open market? Just being under oath doesn’t mean that he will answer the questions presented. When asked about manafort, he will talk about hillary. When asked about flynn, he will talk about his big electoral win. When asked about gates, he will talk about how his inauguration was the most attended ever, and that’s perjury. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1985 "2018-01-25T16:30:50Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > \ I’m guessing this is presaging a show about to drop that a campaign link in coming. > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ummm. What? ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1986 "2018-01-25T16:39:57Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > ummm. What? I can translate for you (I have a lot of experience with this :)) “show” was a typo and should have been “shoe”. FYL believes that SHS (presumably Sarah Huckabee Sanders) is aware that some big news is about to come out linking the Trump campaign to Russia collusion, and therefore (protectively?) edited Trump’s statement about there being no collusion to be merely no collusion that Trump was aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1987 "2018-01-25T16:46:42Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > ummm. What? Yes. Show = shoe. No collusion which used to be issued as a definitive statement, all of a sudden has specific caveats. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1988 "2018-01-25T16:54:08Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Now you’re just casting aspersions on his asparagus. Is that something like castrating Persians on his integrity? > [@k9bfriender](#): > > When asked about gates, he will talk about how his inauguration was the most attended ever, and that’s perjury. 🙂 If he says something along the lines of “That depends on the meaning of _is_”, no doubt the Republicans will be as quick to denounce him as they always have been. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1989 "2018-01-25T17:06:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Is that something like castrating Persians on his integrity? > . [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/F5NDIlP00zA/hqdefault.jpg "aspersions on my asparagus") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NDIlP00zA) Gohmert is very protective of the reputation of his asparagus. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1990 "2018-01-25T17:41:38Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [https://youtu.be/F5NDIlP00zA](https://youtu.be/F5NDIlP00zA) > > Gohmert is very protective of the reputation of his asparagus. Let’s hope he doesn’t get started on the strawberries. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1991 "2018-01-25T20:26:28Z")
Is there anything that the Mueller investigation could REALISTICALLY reveal that would mortally damage the thump administration and bring it or thump down? Interpret/extrapolate _bring down_ any way you like-- cause thump to resign, give up, throw himself off a building, turn the Pubs against him, turn his base against him, give the Dems what they need to tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail, put him in prison, make all his hair fall out, make thump defect to Russia to have Putin’s babies…anything?? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1992 "2018-01-25T20:35:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Is there anything that the Mueller investigation could REALISTICALLY reveal that would mortally damage the thump administration and bring it or thump down? > > Interpret/extrapolate _bring down_ any way you like-- cause thump to resign, give up, throw himself off a building, turn the Pubs against him, turn his base against him, give the Dems what they need to tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail, put him in prison, make all his hair fall out, make thump defect to Russia to have Putin’s babies…anything?? This is what’s so frustrating. I remember all the class-action suits against him with Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. The Courier-Post had a nw one every week. Why his past isn’t enough still irks me. With other investigations, we knew what they were specifically going after (illegal tapping, Iran-Contra), but here it’s so many smaller details leading to… leading to… Line! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1993 "2018-01-25T20:39:43Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Is there anything that the Mueller investigation could REALISTICALLY reveal that would mortally damage the thump administration and bring it or thump down? > > Interpret/extrapolate _bring down_ any way you like-- cause thump to resign, give up, throw himself off a building, turn the Pubs against him, turn his base against him, give the Dems what they need to tar and feather him and run him out of town on a rail, put him in prison, make all his hair fall out, make thump defect to Russia to have Putin’s babies…anything?? Iron-clad evidence of a quid pro quo with Russia? Iron-clad evidence of supporting Russian money laundering with Trump getting a piece? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1994 "2018-01-25T20:48:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Is there anything that the Mueller investigation could REALISTICALLY reveal that would mortally damage the thump administration and bring it or thump down? A few weeks ago, I thought it plausible that Trump, who never wanted to be president anyway, would bail out at the first opportunity. I’ve changed my mind: he will have to be dragged out of office, kicking and screaming. I expect Mueller will return indictments against everyone Trump knows, and will turn over damning evidence of obstruction of justice on Trump’s part. But it will lay there like a steaming dump in the lap of congressional Republicans. If Democrats wrest control of the House this December, impeachment proceedings will begin in January. If not…we’re stuck with him until 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1995 "2018-01-25T20:50:15Z")
Forgive me, but what’s “REALISTIC” anymore? I wouldn’t have thought it was realistic to expect a man who propagates birtherism to be elected as president. I wouldn’t have thought it was realistic that a man who reflexively lies whenever he opens his mouth can remain in the presidency with impunity from his own party. It would never have seemed realistic to me that with strong evidence a president is attempting, apart from anything else, to bend our intelligence agencies to do his personal bidding, Americans would stand by idly and question whether there was a basis to get rid of that guy as fast as they could. Define “REALISTICALLY,” and then maybe we can answer the question. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1996 "2018-01-25T20:52:16Z")
As long as he’s not a closet democrat - he’s golden to his base. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1997 "2018-01-25T21:02:44Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > …Define “REALISTICALLY,” and then maybe we can answer the question. Ya got me there. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1998 "2018-01-25T22:15:33Z")
> [@simster](#): > > As long as he’s not a closet democrat - he’s golden to his base. “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and abort a fetus and I wouldn’t lose voters!” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1999 "2018-01-25T22:52:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So, it IS a perjury trap, right? I hope it is. Really I do. Also, notice that the scumbags pushing the Deep State Shadow Gubmint Secret Society To Destroy Trump From Within The FBI/CIA/DoJ/SecretEverything are now back pedaling and “walking back” their fake story. One has decided to go investigate Hillary emails again, one is trying to pass it off as a joke, and the rest are just playing dumb (not that hard). The fucking liars are cowards too. I guess they forgot, nothing on the internet ever really goes away. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2000 "2018-01-25T22:54:16Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Iron-clad evidence of a quid pro quo with Russia? > > Iron-clad evidence of supporting Russian money laundering with Trump getting a piece? Hotel and real estate deals. And I bet Meuller already knows everything about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=101)