# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 127
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2522 "2018-02-16T20:54:07Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > How does that go against what Rick Kitchen said? No, he was right, sorry, I mistyped. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2523 "2018-02-16T21:02:17Z")
So Mr. Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals. What do they need to worry about? Extradition to the US? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2524 "2018-02-16T21:03:47Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > But not too different from today’s… > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/964594780088033282) > > No concern shown for a hostile foreign power messing with our democracy… As has been eloquently stated elsewhere: Trump applies all information to one and only one filter – how does this affect me? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2525 "2018-02-16T21:05:52Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > So Mr. Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals. What do they need to worry about? Extradition to the US? With the indictment, records can be subpoenaed from banks and internet carriers. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2526 "2018-02-16T21:20:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Perhaps it was a poor word choice and they meant “witless”? \ > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [Witless](https://www.google.com/search?q=witless&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1), surely. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2527 "2018-02-16T21:25:50Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The Russians were doing what they’ve been doing since the 1930’s - undermining American elections, setting citizens against each other, sowing confusion, spreading propaganda, etc. In the past it was almost universally done to benefit the left in America, but in this new era of Oligarchs and non-ideological competition, they’ll happily throw money and effort to any side that can help destabilize the U.S. and make Russia’s stance in the world a little stronger. > > The Russians have no love for Trump. They probably didn’t expect him to win - but even if he didn’t, their efforts would have damaged a Hillary Presidency out of the gate. But once Trump actually won, they shifted tactics and started exploiting the widening division between Trump and anti-Trump factions. > > Will the people decrying Russian intervention in U.S. politics remain as vocal in their condemnation as the Russians turn their attention to undermining the Trump administration? Huh. Sure makes you wonder what all those meetings were about between Trump campaign members, Trump cabinet members, Trump family members and Russians connected to Putin, that no one on Team Trump wants to talk about or even acknowledge until they’re caught dead to rights with evidence for same. Doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2528 "2018-02-16T21:29:33Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > But not too different from today’s… > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/964594780088033282) > > No concern shown for a hostile foreign power messing with our democracy… when I looked earlier that wasn’t there - wow - ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2529 "2018-02-16T21:31:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Goddamn it. Sorry about that. No need to be really. Trump was briefed on Russian shenanigans before he took office and has denied them ever since. His tweets about this being a hoax were (obviously) lies. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2530 "2018-02-16T21:32:21Z")
[Message from Trumpelthinskin](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-russia-indictments/): > [@](#): > > President Trump says, “it is more important than ever before to come together as Americans. We cannot allow those seeking to sow confusion, discord, and rancor to be successful. It’s time we stop the outlandish partisan attacks, wild and false allegations, and far-fetched theories, which only serve to further the agendas of bad actors, like Russia, and do nothing to protect the principles of our institutions. We must unite as Americans to protect the integrity of our democracy and our elections.” ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2531 "2018-02-16T21:33:32Z")
Best. Infrastructure. Week. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2532 "2018-02-16T21:40:10Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Best. Infrastructure. Week. Ever. My fucking god, I wish I’d said that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2533 "2018-02-16T21:43:21Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Message from Trumpelthinskin](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-russia-indictments/): Dear lord, they even put “No Collusion” in all caps. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2534 "2018-02-16T21:57:34Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > In the past it was almost universally done to benefit the left in America Be interested to see your cite for this. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2535 "2018-02-16T22:01:31Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Message from Trumpelthinskin](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-russia-indictments/): I see about 6 words in that message that Trump couldn’t even spell. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2536 "2018-02-16T22:05:50Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > So Mr. Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals. What do they need to worry about? Extradition to the US? Assassination? Putin really really doesn’t like loose ends. Extradition may be the least of their problems. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2537 "2018-02-16T22:06:16Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > With the indictment, records can be subpoenaed from banks and internet carriers. Thanks for that, I was wondering the same thing. I imagined a Russian at the MAGA troll farm not giving a shit about being indicted. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2538 "2018-02-16T22:14:59Z")
No expectation that anybody will be extradited but it’s a big public signal from Mueller that the 'Russher thing" isn’t a hoax. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2539 "2018-02-16T22:19:24Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > How does that go against what Rick Kitchen said? Same thing. He only answered scripted pre-arranged (by who?) questions and refused to deviate from the script or address anything not pre-arranged (by who?) Lock his crusty ass up for contempt. Ten work on putting him away for other more serious things. And if he turns on Trump, squeeze him for all he’s got and then lock him up anyway. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2540 "2018-02-16T23:08:22Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Message from Trumpelthinskin](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-russia-indictments/): > > > [@](#): > > > > …We cannot allow those seeking to sow confusion, discord, and rancor… Um… but that would be thump hisownself, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2541 "2018-02-16T23:23:15Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > My fucking god, I wish I’d said that. 😃 You still can! I stole it from some dude on Reddit so there’s no reason why \*you \*should have scruples. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=126) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=128)