# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2542 "2018-02-16T23:31:15Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > No expectation that anybody will be extradited but it’s a big public signal from Mueller that the 'Russher thing" isn’t a hoax. That’s the important takeaway from these indictments, for sure. It’s Mueller’s way of warning Americans that this is not a hoax, this really happened, it continues to happen and our intelligence agencies have the proof of it. It’s an extremely detailed speaking indictment that lays out the true situation for those in this country who care to know: The things we need to watch for; the breadth and depth of the intrusion; the reality of the threat and steps we must take to beat back further interference. It also brings pressure to bear on Congress to start taking the threats seriously. It shows Devin Nunes for the traitorous chump he is. Congress must choose: Protect Trump, or protect the nation. It highlights exactly how disinterested Trump himself is in protecting anything but his own miserable hide. Lastly, it takes some heat off Rosenstein, Wray and the FBI. All in a good day’s work. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2543 "2018-02-16T23:32:50Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > You still can! I stole it from some dude on Reddit so there’s no reason why \*you \*should have scruples. You’re right!!! I will!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2544 "2018-02-16T23:49:44Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > … Will the people decrying Russian intervention in U.S. politics remain as vocal in their condemnation as the Russians turn their attention to undermining the Trump administration? If you’re hoping to hear anti-Trump Americans busting out with ‘go, Russia, go’ chants, you’re going to have a very long wait. Besides, Trump undermines the Trump administration far more thoroughly than any Russian could aspire to do. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2545 "2018-02-16T23:52:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Will the people decrying Russian intervention in U.S. politics remain as vocal in their condemnation as the Russians turn their attention to undermining the Trump administration? Pretty much, since (unlike republicans) the majority of liberals aren’t ‘party before country’ types and oppose all things they perceive as awful, which includes people who want to destroy our country domestic _and_ foreign. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2546 "2018-02-17T00:06:08Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Best. Infrastructure. Week. Ever. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > My fucking god, I wish I’d said that. 😃 I wish I’d understood it. Did the America-hating fuckstick announce that this week was going to be about infrastructure, or something? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2547 "2018-02-17T00:10:39Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I wish I’d understood it. Did the America-hating fuckstick announce that this week was going to be about infrastructure, or something? He did. This was Infrastructure Week. Again. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2548 "2018-02-17T00:22:34Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > \ FFS, I shook my fist at you; what more do you want? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2549 "2018-02-17T00:55:53Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Will the people decrying Russian intervention in U.S. politics remain as vocal in their condemnation as the Russians turn their attention to undermining the Trump administration? Wow. I thought regular whataboutism was dumb, and you release the imaginary expansion pack. Good job lowering the bar. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2550 "2018-02-17T01:00:24Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Will the people decrying Russian intervention in U.S. politics remain as vocal in their condemnation as the Russians turn their attention to undermining the Trump administration? It’s hard to undermine something that is already a gaping hole in the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2551 "2018-02-17T01:06:25Z")
[Art Buchwald’s 1973 article of handy excuses for Nixon voters.](https://www.snopes.com/uploads/2017/05/santa-fe.png) We’ve already heard about half of their modern equivalents. We’ll hear the other half if proper indictments are made against Trump. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2552 "2018-02-17T01:15:00Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I see about 6 words in that message that Trump couldn’t even spell. He couldn’t spell FBI if you spotted him the F and the B. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2553 "2018-02-17T01:20:36Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [Art Buchwald’s 1973 article of handy excuses for Nixon voters.](https://www.snopes.com/uploads/2017/05/santa-fe.png) > > We’ve already heard about half of their modern equivalents. We’ll hear the other half if proper indictments are made against Trump. “Chappaquiddick” was the “Benghazi” of it’s time, eh! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2554 "2018-02-17T01:20:48Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > He couldn’t spell FBI if you spotted him the F and the B. Actually, he could. He’s all about the “I”. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2555 "2018-02-17T01:28:33Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > No expectation that anybody will be extradited but it’s a big public signal from Mueller that the 'Russher thing" isn’t a hoax. The other thing that makes the indictments mean something to those who are named is that it will likely limit their travel options for the indefinite future to avoid [being arrested and extradited to the U.S.](http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-court-oks-extradition-of-russian-hacker-levashov-to-us-2017-10) by a country that isn’t in thrall to Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2556 "2018-02-17T02:02:59Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > The other thing that makes the indictments mean something to those who are named is that it will likely limit their travel options for the indefinite future to avoid [being arrested and extradited to the U.S.](http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-court-oks-extradition-of-russian-hacker-levashov-to-us-2017-10) by a country that isn’t in thrall to Russia. Oh, and one other little thing they did: Irrevocably tie the Russian campaign to the Trump campaign. Unknown campaign officials were in touch with Russians, perhaps unwittingly in _these_ indictments. But there will be more indictments, and we’ll see if Trump’s campaign officials remain unwitting – or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2557 "2018-02-17T02:13:51Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Oh, and one other little thing they did: Irrevocably tie the Russian campaign to the Trump campaign. Unknown campaign officials were in touch with Russians, perhaps unwittingly in _these_ indictments. But there will be more indictments, and we’ll see if Trump’s campaign officials remain unwitting – or otherwise. And a new term is born: from this day forward, members of Team Trump will be forever known as Unwits. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2558 "2018-02-17T02:18:01Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > And a new term is born: from this day forward, members of Team Trump will be forever known as Unwits. Yer killin’ me. 😃 I like it! This is interesting, to see which way the dominoes are falling: [Reactions to Russian Indictments](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-reactions-factbox/reactions-to-russian-indictments-in-2016-u-s-election-meddling-probe-idUSKCN1G02BI?il=0) (Reuters) ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2559 "2018-02-17T02:30:21Z")
> [@](#): > > “He said he didn’t meddle — I asked him again,” Mr. Trump told reporters traveling with him aboard Air Force One as he flew to Hanoi for more meetings. “You can only ask so many times. I just asked him again. He said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they are saying he did.” - Our Stable Genuis. Lying or incompetent? Either way, he has absolutely no business being in the oval office. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2560 "2018-02-17T02:35:33Z")
I feel sorry for those 13. They’re likely to experience a rash of car accidents and suicides. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2561 "2018-02-17T02:43:22Z")
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