# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2982 "2018-03-06T01:00:41Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Just when I think things couldn’t get any more bizarre.

Why’d you think that? I still think we’ll learn by summer someone in the White House is a cannibal. Probably Miller.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2983 "2018-03-06T01:07:38Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Why’d you think that? I still think we’ll learn by summer someone in the White House is a cannibal. Probably Miller.

Miller is the White House Gimp.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2984 "2018-03-06T01:09:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> And saying what her father does is weird.

He called out her dad too?! Jesus, what a fucking train wreck.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2985 "2018-03-06T01:10:06Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> This guy needs to be on suicide watch. He’s fucking manic.

Heh. Just saw [this on my Twitter feed.](https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/970827842933133312)

> [@Seth Abramson](#):
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> I mean this sincerely, just as a human being: if you’re a friend or family member of Sam Nunberg, please check up on him ASAP. I’ve worked with many people who were in extremis, and Nunberg presents as someone who could be now—or become—a danger to himself. I’m concerned for him.

Seth, to put it mildly, is no fan of the Trump administration.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2986 "2018-03-06T01:24:09Z")

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[quote=“Snowboarder\_Bo, post:2973, topic:800093”]

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Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2987 "2018-03-06T01:40:02Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> In 1967, a group of activists, disgusted with US military action in Vietnam and elsewhere, held a rally. They marched to the Pentagon and attempted to levitate it with their minds.
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> I mention this because your vow is STILL the most inane attempt at political activism I’ve ever heard of.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Woo hoo! I’m number one!
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> I disagree with the inanity. I said President Obama because I respected the man and the office. With his successor, I will not dignify him with a mention of his name nor is the office at the moment worthy of respect. What we have is a traitorous sexual predator living in Kremlin West.

I actually avoid speaking and spelling his name too. I only pointed out thelmalou’s\* idiosyncracy because it contrasted nicely with her pointing out grammatical mistakes, plus it’s becoming annoying to me because in English, we capitalize the names of people, and reading lower-case “thump” garden-paths my brain into thinking I’m reading about an inanimate object until too late to avoid very minor confusion.

\*SWIDT?

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2988 "2018-03-06T01:40:03Z")

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Hope someone posts and edited version. It’s kind of an unwatchable train wreck now that some of the low lights have been spelled out in this thread. It’s painful to watch someone self-destruct.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2989 "2018-03-06T02:03:23Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I actually avoid speaking and spelling his name too. I only pointed out thelmalou’s\* idiosyncracy because it contrasted nicely with her pointing out grammatical mistakes, plus it’s becoming annoying to me because in English, we capitalize the names of people, …

Sorry to be the cause of such cognitive dissonance in you, but a woman’s gotta do what a woman’s gotta do.

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> …and reading lower-case “thump” garden-paths my brain into thinking I’m reading about an inanimate object–

YES! You’ve got it!

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2990 "2018-03-06T02:08:07Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Let’s see. He’s been on MSNBC, CNN. Has he been on Fox yet? Is there a method to this?

On the Foxnews website, the lead story with Nunberg is just that he is defiant against Mueller. Not that he looks like a lunatic or has confirmed collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2991 "2018-03-06T02:11:12Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> On the Foxnews website, the lead story with Nunberg is just that he is defiant against Mueller. Not that he looks like a lunatic or has confirmed collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Hell, to them and their viewers, he probably seems perfectly normal.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2992 "2018-03-06T02:18:10Z")

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I think Nunberg is in a freak out tent right now being calmed down until the nightly newscasts start, when he can resume his televised whatchamacallit.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2993 "2018-03-06T02:20:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “I think your family wants you home for Thanksgiving, and I think you should testify,” MSNBC legal expert Maya Wiley told Nunberg after he maintained his position on the subpoena.

[MSNBC trying for intervention…](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sam-nunberg-refuses-mueller-subpoena_us_5a9d9fa9e4b0479c0255f9f1)

I mean, it’s all very weird, right? It’s not just me thinking this is bugfuck nuts?

Please?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2994 "2018-03-06T02:23:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A later statement to CNN’s Jake Tapper may also raise eyebrows. Nunberg told Tapper that the president had been aware of a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower, set up by Donald Trump Jr., on the premise that Kremlin intermediaries would provide them with derogatory information on Hillary Clinton.
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> “He talked about it the week before. And I don’t know why he did this. All he had to say was, yeah, we met with the Russians. The Russians offered us something and we thought they had something and that was it. I don’t know why he went around trying to hide."

> **[What Is Sam Nunberg Doing?](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/what-is-sam-nunberg-doing/554906/)**
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> The former Trump aide’s decision to announce that he was defying a subpoena from Robert Mueller is more likely to pique the special counsel’s interest than dispel it.

So, Nunberg confirmed – to the extent that a crazy person can really confirm anything – that Trump Sr. knew about the infamous Trump Tower meeting and tried to hide it. Nice. I think lawyers have a term for when someone under investigation hides what they know.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2995 "2018-03-06T02:31:10Z")

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The 42 Craziest quotes from many CNN interviews by Sam Nunberg.

> **[The 42 craziest quotes from Sam Nunberg's absolutely bonkers CNN interviews |...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/sam-nunberg-analysis/index.html)**
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> Former Trump campaign official Sam Nunberg thought it was a good idea to a) ignore an apparent subpoena from special counsel Robert Mueller and b) go on CNN and talk all about it.

39. “I think that Carter Page is a weird dude.”  
Noted.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2996 "2018-03-06T02:33:58Z")

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Y’know, the _real_ upside of this is that the time he’s spending in interviews is time he’s not spending going through all of his e-mails and deleting him. How much do you want to bet that there’s a warrant for his arrest being filled out right this moment, and another one to go into his office and look through his computer?

And I’d _really_ love to be the network that has an administration official in a live interview when the FBI comes into the studio and arrests him on the air.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2997 "2018-03-06T02:38:28Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> The 42 Craziest quotes from many CNN interviews by Sam Nunberg.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/sam-nunberg-analysis/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/sam-nunberg-analysis/index.html)  
> 39. “I think that Carter Page is a weird dude.”  
> Noted.

Not one of the list is (paraphrased) “What would you say if it was a Democrat being investigated, would you still say I should cooperate?”

“Yes, I would”

"Oh, you would? OK. then. "

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2998 "2018-03-06T02:45:48Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> You don’t even want to know what happens when you and two friends hold hands in a dark bathroom and chant “Sweaty Donald” over and over.

Damn, now I’m scared to take a shower. I might look in the mirror and see the reflection of Trump leering at me. Time to go cover all the mirrors.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/2999 "2018-03-06T02:59:36Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Is Faux News reporting any of this, or are they still harping about how Jimmy Kimmel’s Oscars were political and got bad ratings?

I checked out Hannity to see if he was still just continuing his nightly dossier/FISA ranting and he was talking to Carter Page about it. He showed the clip of Erin Burnett asking Nunberg if he was drunk. They both agreed that Nunberg was a peripheral nobody who is drunkenly spewing lies everywhere and Carter Page is an awesome patriot.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3000 "2018-03-06T03:00:37Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Damn, now I’m scared to take a shower. I might look in the mirror and see the reflection of Trump leering at me. Time to go cover all the mirrors.

See, though, that’s a Jewish funerary tradition, so you’re kind of symbolizing death with that. What’s worse, Trump or Death?

Wait. Don’t answer that.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3001 "2018-03-06T03:32:33Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> The 42 Craziest quotes from many CNN interviews by Sam Nunberg.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/sam-nunberg-analysis/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/sam-nunberg-analysis/index.html)  
> 39. “I think that Carter Page is a weird dude.”  
> Noted.

That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time.

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