# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 175
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3482 "2018-03-23T00:33:36Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So I’ve seen theorizing that the resignation is a signal that Mueller is about to be fired, or the ball is about to start rolling? The Stormy Daniels “60 Minutes” interview is scheduled for this coming Sunday. So a bit earlier that day, either Mueller will be fired or a major violent event will occur—North Koreans shoot down a US flier, or Iranians set off a bomb at a US facility, or a domestic false flag involving Mexicans or Muslems. A shame, but “60 Minutes” will be pre-empted, that night. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3483 "2018-03-23T00:37:34Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The Stormy Daniels “60 Minutes” interview is scheduled for this coming Sunday. So a bit earlier that day, either Mueller will be fired or a major violent event will occur—North Koreans shoot down a US flier, or Iranians set off a bomb at a US facility, or a domestic false flag involving Mexicans or Muslems. > > A shame, but “60 Minutes” will be pre-empted, that night. Definitely. Thump will have to create a major distraction. OTOH, he could decide to live-tweet a commentary _during_ the show. That could be quite amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3484 "2018-03-23T00:52:19Z")
I don’t know. Trump’s fan base thinks that screwing a porn actress while your wife is suckling her firstborn son is an admirable thing to do. Breitbart commenters have been calling the Short Fingered Vulgarian a “Man’s Man!!!” for a couple of weeks now. The only reason Trump will want to create a distraction is if he knows Stormy will out him for having a tiny wiener. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3485 "2018-03-23T02:25:27Z")
McMaster out, Bolton in. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3486 "2018-03-23T02:32:56Z")
Rod Rosenstein and various law enforcement officials are holding a press conference tomorrow at 10am EST related to cyber crimes. > I assume more news about the Russia investigation, but it may be unrelated. Today it was leaked that Guccifer 2.0 forgot to use a VPN once and now the US knows he was a Russian military intelligence officer. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3487 "2018-03-23T10:35:40Z")
Wasn’t Roger Stone in contact with Guccifer? If so, then there’s the direct link between the campaign and Russian intelligence. Oops! ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3488 "2018-03-23T15:46:56Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Wasn’t Roger Stone in contact with Guccifer? If so, then there’s the direct link between the campaign and Russian intelligence Yes, but he can claim that he didn’t know Guccifer 2.0 was Russian. Not that I believe him. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3489 "2018-03-23T15:50:09Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Wasn’t Roger Stone in contact with Guccifer? If so, then there’s the direct link between the campaign and Russian intelligence. > > Oops! IIRC, Stone left the campaign after only two months. Before the admitted contact with Guccifer2.0. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3490 "2018-03-23T17:38:27Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh, yeah, this will help a lot. > > “Trump adds conspiracy theorist to legal team” > [http://wapo.st/2IE4qrI](http://wapo.st/2IE4qrI) [Not so fast!](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/politics/digenova-role-trump-legal-team/index.html) " One source said that while Trump liked their message, the President is not convinced they are right for the legal jobs." ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3491 "2018-03-23T18:01:03Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > IIRC, Stone left the campaign after only two months. Before the admitted contact with Guccifer2.0. OTOH - does one ever really _leave_ the Trump campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3492 "2018-03-23T18:10:33Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > OTOH - does one ever really _leave_ the Trump campaign? About as often as an agent ever really leaves the KGB/GRU. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3493 "2018-03-23T18:21:49Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > OTOH - does one ever really _leave_ the Trump campaign? Sure, feet first. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3494 "2018-03-24T22:10:53Z")
[‘You should do it’: Trump officials encouraged George Papadopoulos’s foreign outreach, documents show](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/you-should-do-it-trump-officials-encouraged-george-papadopouloss-foreign-outreach-documents-show/2018/03/23/2dae8c8e-2d38-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html) > [@](#): > > When a Russian news agency reached out to George Papadopoulos to request an interview shortly before the 2016 election, the young adviser to then- > candidate Donald Trump made sure to seek approval from campaign headquarters. > > **“You should do it,” deputy communications director Bryan Lanza urged Papadopoulos in a September 2016 email, emphasizing the benefits of a U.S. “partnership with Russia.”** > > The exchange was a sign that Papadopoulos — who pushed the Trump operation to meet with Russian officials — had the campaign’s blessing for some of his foreign outreach. > > Since Papadopoulos pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI about his Russia contacts during the campaign and agreed to cooperate with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Trump officials have sought to paint the 30-year-old energy consultant as a low-level volunteer whose outreach to Russia was not authorized by the campaign — and in some cases was actively discouraged. > > Emails described to The Washington Post, which are among thousands of documents turned over to investigators examining Russian interference in the 2016 campaign, show Papadopoulos had more extensive contact with key Trump campaign and presidential transition officials than has been publicly acknowledged. > > **Among those who communicated with Papadopoulos were senior campaign figures such as strategist Stephen K. Bannon and adviser Michael Flynn, who corresponded with him about his efforts to broker ties between Trump and top foreign officials, the emails show.** > > As late as December 2016, as President-elect Trump was preparing to take office, Papadopoulos tried to serve as a conduit for the defense minister of Greece, transmitting what he said was a proposal for a strategic alliance from the Russian-allied Greek official that was reviewed by Bannon and Flynn, then in line to be national security adviser. Hong Kong Fooey was a lowly janitor. Superman was an everyman reporter. And George is a mere coffee boy. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3495 "2018-03-25T16:34:10Z")
> [@](#): > > President Trump’s team of lawyers for the Russia investigation continued to shrink Sunday when it was confirmed that Joseph diGenova, a former U.S. attorney and frequent pro-Trump television pundit, and his wife Victoria Toensing would not be representing the president as expected. > **[Trump is left with little legal help as Russia probe reaches a crucial phase](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-lawyer-russia-20180325-story.html)** > > As the Russia investigation enters a crucial stage, President Trump is left without a veteran defense attorney at his side after two lawyers who were just hired to represent him dropped off on Sunday. Trump’s defense team currently consists of Ty Cobb, Jay Sekulow, Fox News, the craven venality of the Republican Party, and the tribalism of the American people. I’d like to be confident that the careful professionalism of Team Mueller will win in the end, but I’m a little short on hope these days. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3496 "2018-03-25T18:55:09Z")
I guess that stiffing lawyers over the years has made it more difficult to hire one. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3497 "2018-03-25T19:04:55Z")
Thump [says](https://www.axios.com/trump-legal-team-lawyer-tweet-dowd-digenova-olson-ba97ea5b-9bbe-4aba-8c01-fce0d259122b.html)"Na-AH! Not hard to hire a lawyer! Nanny-nanny boo-boo!" > [@](#): > > Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump > > Many lawyers and top law firms want to represent me in the Russia case…don’t believe the Fake News narrative that it is hard to find a lawyer who wants to take this on. Fame & fortune will NEVER be turned down by a lawyer, though some are conflicted. Problem is that a new… > …lawyer or law firm will take months to get up to speed (if for no other reason than they can bill more), which is unfair to our great country - and I am very happy with my existing team. Besides, there was NO COLLUSION with Russia, except by Crooked Hillary and the Dems! > 6:49 AM - Mar 25, 2018 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3498 "2018-03-25T19:45:14Z")
Handy how Trump confirms everything (though, granted, it does make one wonder about Stormy). ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3499 "2018-03-25T20:01:48Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Thump [says](https://www.axios.com/trump-legal-team-lawyer-tweet-dowd-digenova-olson-ba97ea5b-9bbe-4aba-8c01-fce0d259122b.html)"Na-AH! Not hard to hire a lawyer! Nanny-nanny boo-boo!" What the fuck is wrong with him? He doesn’t need a team of lawyers, he needs a team of phycologists and psychiatrists. Bring a net. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3500 "2018-03-25T20:32:53Z")
> [@The Dotard](#): > > Fame & fortune will NEVER be turned down by a lawyer… Fortune…assuming that the client pays his bills. Fame…well, infamy is kind of fame, right? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3501 "2018-03-25T20:41:12Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Fortune…assuming that the client pays his bills. Fame…well, infamy is kind of fame, right? [Yep.](https://youtu.be/GIGtHhAfe8w?t=13) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=174) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=176)