# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 187
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3722 "2018-04-10T15:44:32Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > She was supposedly put in charge of the opioid crisis. How’s that going? She has a steady supplier now - ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3723 "2018-04-10T16:16:59Z")
Looking at it purely from the perspective of Trump, he should have had Mueller fired weeks ago. The Cohen raid might have been avoided, and he was just as likely to get away with firing Mueller then as he is now. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3724 "2018-04-10T16:37:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > MAGA: My Attorney Got Arrested MAGA: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3725 "2018-04-10T17:06:23Z")
Loop: > [@Czarcasm](#): > > MAGA: My Attorney Got Arrested > [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > MAGA: Make Attorneys Get Attorneys Goto Loop: ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3726 "2018-04-10T17:13:19Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > IANAL but don’t the rules of search warrants require them to be very specific about what is being searched for and what is not on the list cannot be introduced as evidence in any proceeding? I’m not a lawyer ( or even an American ) but my understanding is that the judge has much leeway to make the call what is allowed and what is dismissed \*. For example if some cop is often going on gray area the judge can dismiss something otherwise valid just to slap his wrists, when he would’ve accepted it from some other cop. On the other hand there have been cases when a rookie cop has forgotten to Mirandize some repeat offender, and the crooks lawyer wanted some loose talk to be removed from evidence. The judge however has ruled that the crook had been arrested enough times that he knows his rights even without Mirandizing. - Although in some egregious cases he may afterwards get in trouble - I think the ruling still stands. But like I said I’m not a lawyer. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > To be fair, Jared’s going to reinvent government first. I’d say that’s pretty much done. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3727 "2018-04-10T17:17:09Z")
My Ass Goin’ Away ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3728 "2018-04-10T17:18:19Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Speaking of Kelly Anne, anyone else sick of this nothingburger? This nothingburger with a side of nothingfries and super-sized nothingcoke? I hear they found a guy with the keys to a storage locker full of nothing. Boxes and boxes of nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3729 "2018-04-10T17:24:13Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Looking at it purely from the perspective of Trump, he should have had Mueller fired weeks ago. The Cohen raid might have been avoided, and he was just as likely to get away with firing Mueller then as he is now. Firing Mueller is undoubtedly a bad option, but it may be his best option if he is guilty. Hell, I don’t know what his good option is at this point if he is guilty. Not sure if this is related, but Kushner [bought out the rest of his troubled building](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/nyregion/kushners-vornado-666-fifth-avenue.html). Nobody knows where they got the money for this, or why considering that the property has likely lost value. I’m sure it’s totally on the up and up though. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3730 "2018-04-10T17:24:21Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > IANAL but don’t the rules of search warrants require them to be very specific about what is being searched for and what is not on the list cannot be introduced as evidence in any proceeding? There is a “plain sight” doctrine – basically, if the cops have legal authorization to look somewhere, they are allowed to take notice of any evidence of crime they happen to espy. Thus, if they’re executing a search warrant for a stolen car, they can look in your garage to see if it’s there, and if there are drug stashes and dead bodies and whatnot strewn around the garage floor they can investigate those as well. However, if you were prudent enough to keep the drugs in a drawer and the bodies in a footlocker, you’re safe – the cops can’t look in those places because they obviously aren’t going to find a car there. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3731 "2018-04-10T17:26:26Z")
Chuck Grassley: Mueller would ‘appreciate’ being fired from his ‘dead end’ investigation > **[GOP senator suggests Mueller would ‘appreciate’ being fired from his ‘dead...](https://thinkprogress.org/grassley-mueller-appreciate-trump-a0a0e4df36d3/)** > > The dead end investigation has already resulted in 19 indictments. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3732 "2018-04-10T17:34:26Z")
Anyone have a prediction about what Trump blows up in Syria? We all know something will in the next day or two, as soon as he gets permission from Mack Daddy Vladdy. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3733 "2018-04-10T17:38:06Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > There is a “plain sight” doctrine – basically, if the cops have legal authorization to look somewhere, they are allowed to take notice of any evidence of crime they happen to espy. Thus, if they’re executing a search warrant for a stolen car, they can look in your garage to see if it’s there, and if there are drug stashes and dead bodies and whatnot strewn around the garage floor they can investigate those as well. However, if you were prudent enough to keep the drugs in a drawer and the bodies in a footlocker, you’re safe – the cops can’t look in those places because they obviously aren’t going to find a car there. These days, when search warrants include ‘electronic records’ and ‘electronic devices’, wouldn’t that mean thumb drives? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3734 "2018-04-10T17:40:19Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > There is a “plain sight” doctrine – basically, if the cops have legal authorization to look somewhere, they are allowed to take notice of any evidence of crime they happen to espy. Thus, if they’re executing a search warrant for a stolen car, they can look in your garage to see if it’s there, and if there are drug stashes and dead bodies and whatnot strewn around the garage floor they can investigate those as well. However, if you were prudent enough to keep the drugs in a drawer and the bodies in a footlocker, you’re safe – the cops can’t look in those places because they obviously aren’t going to find a car there. _Hurriedly scribbles notes_ ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3735 "2018-04-10T17:43:46Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > the cops can’t look in those places because they obviously aren’t going to find a car there. But if they smell a corpse when they pass that footlocker, I think they have a reasonable grounds to check it out. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3736 "2018-04-10T17:43:58Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > There is a “plain sight” doctrine – basically, if the cops have legal authorization to look somewhere, they are allowed to take notice of any evidence of crime they happen to espy. Thus, if they’re executing a search warrant for a stolen car, they can look in your garage to see if it’s there, and if there are drug stashes and dead bodies and whatnot strewn around the garage floor they can investigate those as well. However, if you were prudent enough to keep the drugs in a drawer and the bodies in a footlocker, you’re safe – the cops can’t look in those places because they obviously aren’t going to find a car there. Except…they CAN look in places where you might have a weapon stashed that you could use against them. Like possibly drawers and footlockers. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3737 "2018-04-10T17:48:38Z")
Michael Cohen is the deputy finance director of the Republican National Committee. His name has mysteriously disappeared from the Party’s website. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3738 "2018-04-10T17:57:15Z")
No. He was in charge of the coffee cash-box back in the day. Just a nobody, had nothing to do with administration. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3739 "2018-04-10T18:11:24Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > _Hurriedly scribbles notes_ Ah! Glad to see Trump secured new counsel! Hope you do better than the last guy… and guy before that… and guy who wasn’t really hired in the first place, though it was announced he was… and the guy before that… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3740 "2018-04-10T18:13:29Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > No. He was in charge of the coffee cash-box back in the day. Just a nobody, had nothing to do with administration. Cohen, Papadopoulos, and Manafort would all fight for something to do. Sometimes, all three of them served the coffee to Trump at the same time: Cohen to prepare setting, Manafort to pour, Papadopoulos to fix to Two Scoops’s liking. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/3741 "2018-04-10T18:18:54Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > His name has mysteriously disappeared from the Party’s website. Eastasian spy assassinated him. Doubleplusungood, really… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=186) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=188)