# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4022 "2018-04-17T23:33:37Z")

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In other news, FUCK Mitch McConnell. In a just world, that complicit jellybag would be ziplined into a blast furnace with a meat hook through his wattle.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4023 "2018-04-17T23:39:40Z")

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I don’t know if you’ve ever heard this before Vinyl Turnip, but you have a way with words. And imagery and things.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4024 "2018-04-17T23:41:13Z")

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I hope Bobby Threesticks has a stick with McConnell’s name on it.

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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4025 "2018-04-17T23:41:36Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> In other news, FUCK Mitch McConnell. In a just world, that complicit jellybag would be ziplined into a blast furnace with a meat hook through his wattle.

Does the Senate majority leader have an absolute veto power in the Senate that is not subject to a discharge petition like the House would be?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4026 "2018-04-17T23:50:13Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> In other news, FUCK Mitch McConnell. In a just world, that complicit jellybag would be ziplined into a blast furnace with a meat hook through his wattle.

I like how you think.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4027 "2018-04-18T00:54:21Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> You have to be cautious when you’re dealing with shady clients. If a client accidentally sends you a significant overpayment- return the check, don’t cash it. Otherwise he may ask you to return the difference and this could be construed as money laundering.

With somebody like the Orange Oaf, you’re also at risk of finding out that the original check was actually worthless and you’ve been scammed of the “difference”.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4028 "2018-04-18T01:13:21Z")

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I’m afraid that I’m missing McConnell’s current relevance to this present situation?

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4029 "2018-04-18T01:21:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’m afraid that I’m missing McConnell’s current relevance to this present situation?

[McConnell: I won’t put legislation to protect Mueller on Senate floor](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/mitch-mcconell-robert-mueller-donald-trump-senate/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4030 "2018-04-18T01:21:31Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’m afraid that I’m missing McConnell’s current relevance to this present situation?

Oh, I suppose if you [have to have some](http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/383620-mcconnell-senate-wont-take-up-mueller-protection-bill)… (The Hill)

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> Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Tuesday that the Senate would not take up legislation limiting President Trump’s ability to fire special counsel Robert Mueller.
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> “I’m the one who decides what we take to the floor, that’s my responsibility as the majority leader, and we will not be having this on the floor of the Senate,” he told Fox News.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4031 "2018-04-18T01:59:40Z")

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Mad Dog Maddow spun a neat little conspiracy theory that touches on that. Her idea is that the GOP committees are demanding stuff from Rosenstein that he cannot legally supply. (Relating to an ongoing investigation.) She suggests that its a trap to get Rosie in a position where any move he makes is insubordinate and fireable. Wring around the Rosie…

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4032 "2018-04-18T02:14:39Z")

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I know everyone here is enjoying it but if Cohen’s secret client had turned out to be Maddow or Obermann then the world would have been a funnier place right now. Hannity is just a little too spot on for the punchline.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4033 "2018-04-18T03:13:57Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I know everyone here is enjoying it but if Cohen’s secret client had turned out to be Maddow or Obermann then the world would have been a funnier place right now. Hannity is just a little too spot on for the punchline.

When people write the movie of this, they will be criticized for manufacturing ridiculous plot contrivances and one-dimensional characters.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4034 "2018-04-18T03:55:23Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I like how you think.

So do I.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4035 "2018-04-18T04:16:34Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> When people write the movie of this, they will be criticized for manufacturing ridiculous plot contrivances and one-dimensional characters.

Did anyone see the miniseries “Manhunt: Unabomber?”

Chris Noth can play Robert Mueller.

> **[See 'Sex and the City' Alum Chris Noth Take on the Unabomber Case in New Series](https://extratv.com/2017/07/31/see-sex-and-the-city-alum-chris-noth-take-on-the-unabomber-case-in-new-series/)**
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> Check out a sneak peek of Discovery's series “Manhunt: Unabomber,” starring Chris Noth and Sam Worthington!

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4036 "2018-04-18T05:09:28Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Then you best be fine with her coming to visit your grave in a long, black veil.

Where the night winds wail.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4037 "2018-04-18T05:31:03Z")

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So the latest is that the real estate deal was Hannit trying to erect something next to a penthouse in what he thought was a waste dump. He realized it was actually in Virginia but it was too late to pull out and he hadn’t used a condominium.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4038 "2018-04-18T11:09:50Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> [McConnell: I won’t put legislation to protect Mueller on Senate floor](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/mitch-mcconell-robert-mueller-donald-trump-senate/index.html)

The Hannity scandal only fuels my suspicion that the marriage between the American right wing and Putin’s Russia is much wider and more complex than we have imagined. We’re viewing collusion as if it were an uneasy, temporary alliance between Putin and Trump’s campaign. I’m afraid it’s probably a lot more than that, and that much of the Republican party have been involved with Putin’s Russia for some time. The NRA and other right wing political organizations have clearly been infiltrated and influenced by Russian interests to no small degree.

But clearly, the Senate and House Republicans want to see this investigation die. The GOP is now Trump’s party and nobody dares to do anything other than make weak statements predicting political turmoil if Trump fires Mueller. It’s going to happen, though: Trump is going to fire Rosenstein and/or Sessions, and then he will move on Mueller, most likely claiming that the FBI’s involvement with Cohen is proof that Mueller’s investigation has become personal and political and unfair and gone well beyond investigations into collusion.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4039 "2018-04-18T12:44:21Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> …but it was too late to pull out and he hadn’t used a condominium.

Must be embarrassing to actually buy a condominimum.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4040 "2018-04-18T17:12:08Z")

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Bizzare:

WTAE-TV in Pittsburgh received copies of an email sent by the Commander of the Major Crimes divison of the Pittsburgh PD, sent earlier today, asking the force to be ready for protests on Thursday following the firing of Mueller:

> <https://twitter.com/MCipriani_WTAE/status/986631272515751937?s=19>

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4041 "2018-04-18T17:20:41Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Bizzare:
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> WTAE-TV in Pittsburgh received copies of an email sent by the Commander of the Major Crimes divison of the Pittsburgh PD, sent earlier today, asking the force to be ready for protests on Thursday following the firing of Mueller:
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/MCipriani_WTAE/status/986631272515751937?s=19)

I saw that earlier too. MoveOn, and I presume other groups, is organizing people to protest quickly if Mueller is fired. I’m on their contact list. Anyway, I would imagine that PD just became aware of the plans and wants to be ready to go if needed. I doubt they have any foreknowledge of what Trump will do. For that matter, I don’t think Trump has any foreknowledge of what Trump will do.

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