# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 205
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4082 "2018-04-19T18:00:28Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > The US Marshals Service is part of the department of justice, which does report to trump. They are organized within the DOJ for budgetary and administrative purposes. But they take their orders from the federal courts. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4083 "2018-04-19T18:01:53Z")
[Justice IG sends criminal referral of Andrew McCabe to US attorney](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/justice-mccabe-criminal-referral/index.html?adkey=bn) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4084 "2018-04-19T18:34:25Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [Justice IG sends criminal referral of Andrew McCabe to US attorney](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/justice-mccabe-criminal-referral/index.html?adkey=bn) :eek: ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4085 "2018-04-19T18:41:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Would like to note it is completely possible he is dropping the defamation suits for a lack of money to pursue them. He discovered that they won’t do him a solid and cover his fees the way he covered expenses for his client-not-client? More likely, he knows that he would have to testify about the truthfulness of the dossier, which would put him under oath about those subjects far earlier than he would like. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4086 "2018-04-19T18:43:27Z")
This feels like overplaying their hand. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4087 "2018-04-19T18:46:51Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [Justice IG sends criminal referral of Andrew McCabe to US attorney](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/justice-mccabe-criminal-referral/index.html?adkey=bn) For “lacking candor” in testimony under oath to Congress? Is there a similar referral for Jeff Sessions on deck? ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4088 "2018-04-19T18:48:06Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [Justice IG sends criminal referral of Andrew McCabe to US attorney](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/justice-mccabe-criminal-referral/index.html?adkey=bn) Let’s make sure to clarify that the matter for which McCabe is allegedly in trouble is improperly talking out of school about an investigation _into the Clinton Foundation_. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4089 "2018-04-19T20:02:42Z")
Sure. And Il Douche fired Comey for saying mean things about Hillary. Pull the other leg, its got bells. Pull the middle one, I’ll give you a nickel. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4090 "2018-04-19T20:16:33Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > For “lacking candor” in testimony under oath to Congress? Is there a similar referral for Jeff Sessions on deck? Or Kushner. Or Junior. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4091 "2018-04-19T20:25:49Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Or Kushner. Or Junior. Or Senior. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4092 "2018-04-19T20:32:15Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > Here, New York and a few other states have enacted laws that prohibit someone from being tried in NY state courts if they were tried and convicted/acquitted/pardoned in courts from other jurisdictions. The New York AG is asking the legislature to change this law, with Trump’s cronies in mind. [Here’s the letter](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/19/nyregion/document-Eric-Schneiderman-Letter-to-Lawmakers-4-18-2018.html) from NY AG Schneiderman to the Legislature in which he lays out exactly what the current statute does and what changes he wants to make. It’s very readable and includes some interesting history. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4093 "2018-04-19T21:03:39Z")
There are a number of articles discussing whether Cohen will [turn on Trump](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/19/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-white-house/): _“The President has told several people he doesn’t think Cohen would betray him, the officials said, but that has not quieted the questions.”_ I’m struck by the tone of all of these articles and people around Trump that start with the initial assumption that Trump is guilty. There is nothing to “betray” if he is innocent. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4094 "2018-04-19T21:19:22Z")
Well, Trump’s going to be all right now. He’s added Rudy Giuliani to his legal team. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4095 "2018-04-19T21:25:05Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Well, Trump’s going to be all right now. He’s added Rudy Giuliani to his legal team. Oh, shit. We have to deal with his dumbass theories and BS on TV now? He’s just used as distraction. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4096 "2018-04-19T22:39:16Z")
How will Rudy connect it all to 9/11? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4097 "2018-04-19T22:45:23Z")
Seems like the late stages of a long running sit com where they add a new main character before finally canceling the show that they should have canceled two seasons ago. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4098 "2018-04-19T22:53:40Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Well, Trump’s going to be all right now. He’s added Rudy Giuliani to his legal team. The clown car has just exceeded its bursting strength. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4099 "2018-04-19T23:22:12Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Seems like the late stages of a long running sit com where they add a new main character before finally canceling the show that they should have canceled two seasons ago. You’re saying the administration has jumped the shark? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4100 "2018-04-19T23:37:35Z")
Does slithering underneath count? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4101 "2018-04-19T23:57:16Z")
Jumping the shark implies the show was once good and turned bad. This administration is a show that should have been canceled two years ago - when he announced his intention to run. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=204) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=206)