# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 209
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4162 "2018-04-21T02:51:04Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > As I have prophetically said before, you will see. Will you shut the holy fuck up until then? (I’m sure the answer is no.) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4163 "2018-04-21T02:58:24Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Getting back to actual news, Wapo [reports](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-told-white-house-that-rosensteins-firing-could-prompt-his-departure-too/2018/04/20/911ca994-44c7-11e8-bba2-0976a82b05a2_story.html) that Jeff Sessions says he “could” resign if Rosenstein were fired. I’ve just been watching analysis of this story. It does seem as if Sessions’ threat was enough to back Trump off the actual firing. For now. As much as I loathe Sessions, it’s refreshing to see at least _one_ cabinet member (sort of) stand up to the dipshit in the Oval. I think Giuliani is just the latest comfort goat. Surely Rudy knows he can’t negotiate the end of the Mueller investigation. On the bright side, it buys Mueller a couple more weeks as they go through the kabuki dance. Still, it could all come to a blow-up fairly soon. I think Trump will eventually cave in to his impulsive nature and fire Rosenstein. But if Sessions quits on top of a Rosenstein firing, I don’t think Trump can slide anyone new into the slot who would limit Mueller’s investigation. Pruitt is ruined, despite the fact that he’s still hanging on by his fingernails. Who’s left in the cabinet who would be willing to destroy (what’s left of) his/her own personal credibility to put their weight on Mueller? Maybe Rick Perry? What’s his incentive? Anyway, interesting to learn about Sessions’ finally picking a hill to (sort of) die on. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4164 "2018-04-21T02:59:04Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Getting back to actual news, Wapo [reports](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-told-white-house-that-rosensteins-firing-could-prompt-his-departure-too/2018/04/20/911ca994-44c7-11e8-bba2-0976a82b05a2_story.html) that Jeff Sessions says he “could” resign if Rosenstein were fired. Since Trump would love that, I’m not sure what Sessions is thinking here. Because it sure isn’t that he has some sort of integrity. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4165 "2018-04-21T03:00:43Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Getting back to actual news, Wapo [reports](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-told-white-house-that-rosensteins-firing-could-prompt-his-departure-too/2018/04/20/911ca994-44c7-11e8-bba2-0976a82b05a2_story.html) that Jeff Sessions says he “could” resign if Rosenstein were fired. What principles that man has. I could quack like a duck, if I was a duck. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4166 "2018-04-21T03:05:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > As I have prophetically said before, you will see. I have no idea what that means or how it answers my question. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4167 "2018-04-21T03:08:24Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’ve just been watching analysis of this story. It does seem as if Sessions’ threat was enough to back Trump off the actual firing. For now. As much as I loathe Sessions, it’s refreshing to see at least _one_ cabinet member (sort of) stand up to the dipshit in the Oval. > > I think Giuliani is just the latest comfort goat. Surely Rudy knows he can’t negotiate the end of the Mueller investigation. On the bright side, it buys Mueller a couple more weeks as they go through the kabuki dance. > > Still, it could all come to a blow-up fairly soon. I think Trump will eventually cave in to his impulsive nature and fire Rosenstein. But if Sessions quits on top of a Rosenstein firing, I don’t think Trump can slide anyone new into the slot who would limit Mueller’s investigation. Pruitt is ruined, despite the fact that he’s still hanging on by his fingernails. Who’s left in the cabinet who would be willing to destroy (what’s left of) his/her own personal credibility to put their weight on Mueller? Maybe Rick Perry? What’s his incentive? > > Anyway, interesting to learn about Sessions’ finally picking a hill to (sort of) die on. I was reading something today that was saying Giuliani is just feeling things out to see if he is in any trouble. He could be told that he can’t represent Trump because he is a subject of the investigation himself. And Perry can’t move into the Attorney General spot since he’s not an attorney. Who else in the cabinet is? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4168 "2018-04-21T03:25:00Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I was reading something today that was saying Giuliani is just feeling things out to see if he is in any trouble. He could be told that he can’t represent Trump because he is a subject of the investigation himself. Yeah, I wondered about that as well. He was way, way too close to Team Trump during the campaign, and he knew too much when he shouldn’t have known it. > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > And Perry can’t move into the Attorney General spot since he’s not an attorney. Who else in the cabinet is? Wasn’t sure about Perry’s status as an attorney. Pruitt was Trump’s great hope, but he’s blown himself up. Will be lucky to stay in the job he currently has. Alex Acosta, Secretary of Labor, fits the bill. But he’s a McGahn guy so may not be willing. Also Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen. She’s probably Trump’s best bet if Sessions flees the circus. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4169 "2018-04-21T05:20:53Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I agree and have duly posted in your constructive and useful thread. > > I suspect that some misguided individual thought it was harmful to the universe (or something) to let us genuinely express derision, and so left us with nothing but the happy blue person smiling at a happy thought that we see here :rolleyes:. > > But this is the Pit. If they want to keep the Happy Thinker for the other folders, fine. Here, we need the capacity to seriously roll those orbs. Agreed. Until mr. green’s return, I exclusively use mr. dubious where I would once use roll eyes. Like so. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4170 "2018-04-21T05:30:18Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > And Perry can’t move into the Attorney General spot since he’s not an attorney. Who else in the cabinet is? GQ question: one has to be a member of the bar to become AG? edited to add I should have googled first: [Does the attorney general of the US have to be an attorney? - Answers](http://www.answers.com/Q/Does_the_attorney_general_have_to_be_a_lawyer) The answer is Nope ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4171 "2018-04-21T05:37:18Z")
Jared has a JD. He could be AG. ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4172 "2018-04-21T06:02:44Z")
How many giulianis does it take to change a lightbulb? 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4173 "2018-04-21T06:53:00Z")
Its a Move. Different from a “move” in that it is bold and dramatic! Il Douche is the kind of man who believes the myth of born leaders who make bold and decisive moves that other men are to small to perform. Lesser people are stunned and amazed, his enemies reel away in confusion and disarray. A single, perfect white dove descends from the sky, and shits on his head. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4174 "2018-04-21T07:19:41Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Jared has a JD. He could be AG. Not getting through the Senate under any circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4175 "2018-04-21T16:58:07Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > As I have prophetically said before, you will see. About as useful and accurate as any other “prophecy”…but slightly entertaining if you imagine it being said in the voice of The Amazing Criswell from “Plan 9 From Other Space”. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4176 "2018-04-21T17:13:23Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > How many giulianis does it take to change a lightbulb? 9/11. 0.81818181… Giulianis? So One Giuliani could change 1.22222222… lightbulbs? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4177 "2018-04-21T17:35:49Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > 0.81818181… Giulianis? So One Giuliani could change 1.22222222… lightbulbs? Yes. That’s exactly the conclusion that you were supposed to draw from that post. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4178 "2018-04-21T19:16:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Realistically, of course he wouldn’t fire every last one, but he could create an environment in which it wouldn’t be very comfortable to cross him. And how would he do that without violating current laws and regulations? Another question for you: Have you ever known anything regarding what you’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4179 "2018-04-21T19:43:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Another question for you: Have you ever known anything regarding what you’re talking about? You’re asking the wrong person, [because the last time someone called him out on his opinions, he explained to us that he was indeed smarter than everyone else here.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20857368#post20857368) ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4180 "2018-04-21T21:17:46Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > GQ question: one has to be a member of the bar to become AG? > > edited to add I should have googled first: [Does the attorney general of the US have to be an attorney? - Answers](http://www.answers.com/Q/Does_the_attorney_general_have_to_be_a_lawyer) > The answer is Nope I didn’t know that. Looking back to 1900, all of them have been attorneys. But I can see Trump nominating someone who isn’t since experience and knowledge of the job are not qualifications for his picks. So it could be Rick Perry! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/4181 "2018-04-21T21:48:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Agreed. Until mr. green’s return, I exclusively use mr. dubious where I would once use roll eyes. > > Like so. :dubious: That’s probably the best of the current options–it doesn’t quite convey the same message as an Eye Roll, but it’s in the ballpark. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=208) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=210)