# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5402 "2018-07-12T21:38:55Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> And once again, the shit-head with a bad hair cut shows us what a gigantic tool he is. And if that spot-on description isn’t enough, I’m referring to Gowdy. Apparently, the dipshit has never heard of hyperbole.

Best tweet I saw about Gowdy’s expression while Srzok was testifying:

“He had an expression on his face like he was expecting a full breakfast but only got served pastries and cheese.”

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5403 "2018-07-12T23:00:07Z")

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When they started the “How many times did you lie to your wife about your affair?” line of questioning, someone on Twitter commented that Strzok should have answered “Congressman, I am ashamed of what I did. I have prayed to Jesus. I am confident that I have been forgiven.”.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5404 "2018-07-12T23:21:12Z")

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Best quote of the day.

> [@Peter Strzok](#):
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> “There is… one extraordinarily important piece of evidence supporting my integrity, the integrity of the FBI, and our lack of bias,” Strzok said. “In the summer of 2016, I was one of a handful of people who knew the details of Russia election interference and its possible connection with members of the Trump campaign. This information had the potential to derail and quite possibly defeat Mr. Trump, but the thought of expressing that or exposing that information never crossed my mind.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5405 "2018-07-13T00:56:20Z")

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Never crossed his mind? Well, no, that’s absurd. Didn’t do it, I’ll buy that one. For reasons of duty and integrity, buy that one too. But never crossed his mind? And I might take issue with whether or not his duty to the country might exceed his duty to the FBI, or the constraints of his sworn oath.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5406 "2018-07-13T01:35:14Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, this hair cut may not be very good, but he has had a different one every few weeks over the years. He seems uncertain as to precisely what fashion statement he wants to make.

I believe Gowdy gets his fashion tips from [this guy](https://muppetmindset.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/a2b22-beakerhead.png).

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5407 "2018-07-13T01:40:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Peter Srzok is not taking the Republican bashing lying down
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> [Republicans Thought Peter Strzok Would Be a Punching Bag. He Just Knocked Them Out.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-thought-peter-strozk-would-be-a-punching-bag-he-just-knocked-them-out?via=twitter_page)

That “proceeding” is a real shit show.

“Traitors On Parade”. Gowdy, Gohmert, Goodlatte, DeSantis. Traitors. Every last one of them.

Meanwhile, The House broke questioning to hold a 5 minute long vote to table a motion made by Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California to subpoena former Trump aide Steve Bannon over his refusal to answer lawmaker’s questions, similar to threats Strzok received during the hearing.

The motion, after a lengthy back and forth, was tabled.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5408 "2018-07-13T02:42:28Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Best tweet I saw about Gowdy’s expression while Srzok was testifying:
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> “He had an expression on his face like he was expecting a full breakfast but only got served pastries and cheese.”

I heard that being applied to John Kelly while Trump was pontificating during the NATO breakfast.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5409 "2018-07-13T03:09:49Z")

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^I think that’s the joke.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5410 "2018-07-13T11:14:52Z")

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The best sign from London: “THERE WILL BE HELL TOUPEE”.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5411 "2018-07-13T12:57:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Never crossed his mind? Well, no, that’s absurd. Didn’t do it, I’ll buy that one. For reasons of duty and integrity, buy that one too. But never crossed his mind? And I might take issue with whether or not his duty to the country might exceed his duty to the FBI, or the constraints of his sworn oath.

It probably never crossed his mind that trump would actually win, which would be a prerequisite for a thought on how to prevent it.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5412 "2018-07-13T14:19:53Z")

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CNN correspondent Manu Raju [tweeted](https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1017772211699109888)that Rod Rosenstein will be holding a press conference at 11:45 to make “a law enforcement announcement”. It will probably be something entirely unrelated to the Mueller investigation. Maybe the FBI broke up a drug or human trafficking operation or something. If it is related to the Mueller investigation, it will probably be something like indictments against more Russians who will never be extradited. But now, of course, I have to sit here glued to the screen, hanging on to the faint hope that Mueller is rolling out indictments against Trump’s inner circle.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5413 "2018-07-13T15:35:18Z")

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I don’t think Rosenstein would make an announcement about indictments coming from the Special Counsel’s office. They tend to handle that sort of thing themselves.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5414 "2018-07-13T15:41:57Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> I don’t think Rosenstein would make an announcement about indictments coming from the Special Counsel’s office. They tend to handle that sort of thing themselves.

I agree he’s probably not going to announce anything from Mueller’s crew today, but FWIW, back in February, Rosenstein did announce the indictments of 13 Russians for meddling in the election. So, it could happen.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5415 "2018-07-13T15:45:02Z")

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Hmmm. According to some reporters on Twitter, it looks like it is “Mueller-related”, possibly an indictment.

> <https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1017796576234868741>
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> Manu Raju @mkraju

Suspense!

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5416 "2018-07-13T15:55:22Z")

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You can watch the announcement live here: [https://www.justice.gov/live](https://www.justice.gov/live)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5417 "2018-07-13T15:55:31Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Hmmm. According to some reporters on Twitter, it looks like it is “Mueller-related”, possibly an indictment.
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> [https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1017796576234868741](https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1017796576234868741)
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> Suspense!

I was hoping for something like this. Please let it be something really, really big that terrifies Republicans in Congress and forces them to deal with the Russian asset presently visiting the UK.

My favorite London protest sign so far: “I WISH this was fake news.”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5418 "2018-07-13T16:06:24Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> CNN correspondent Manu Raju [tweeted](https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1017772211699109888)that Rod Rosenstein will be holding a press conference at 11:45 to make “a law enforcement announcement”. It will probably be something entirely unrelated to the Mueller investigation. Maybe the FBI broke up a drug or human trafficking operation or something. I\*\*f it is related to the Mueller investigation, it will probably be something like indictments against more Russians who will never be extradited. \*\*But now, of course, I have to sit here glued to the screen, hanging on to the faint hope that Mueller is rolling out indictments against Trump’s inner circle.

Reporters were given an embargoed copy of the press release. Some were picked up on a hot mic saying it will be Russian intelligence agents indicted for hacking the DNC and Clinton campaign.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5419 "2018-07-13T16:06:33Z")

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CNN is reporting that prosecutors on Mueller’s staff appeared at the federal courthouse in DC to deliver a grand jury indictment this morning.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5420 "2018-07-13T16:10:13Z")

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The indictment charges 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking into the DNC. Meaning the Kremlin specifically.

Gosh, would it be appropriate for an American president to raise this concern to the president of Russia during a “summit?”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5421 "2018-07-13T16:11:39Z")

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Coming one day after the GOP’s despicable behavior and one (?) day before Trump meets Putin, this is impeccable timing.

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