# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 274
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5462 "2018-07-13T20:18:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > My bold. > > Are you honestly going to tell me that whoever wrote/typed up this momentous government document actually **used an apostrophe to create a plural???** > > A mistake that monumental threatens to invalidate the entire Mueller investigation! > > Seriously, **asahi** , is that mistake in the original or did you re-type instead of copy/pasting. I hope for the sake of our country’s future that it’s the former. LOL, mistake copying. I tried to use the copy/paste feature… ETA: To add insult to injury, I was ninja’d by **JohnT** anyway ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5463 "2018-07-13T20:18:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > My bold. > > Are you honestly going to tell me that whoever wrote/typed up this momentous government document actually **used an apostrophe to create a plural???** > > A mistake that monumental threatens to invalidate the entire Mueller investigation! > > Seriously, **asahi** , is that mistake in the original or did you re-type instead of copy/pasting. I hope for the sake of our country’s future that it’s the former. Thelma, you can see a the relevant part in a snippet from this jpg here, twitted by Peter J. Hasson - > There is no apostrophe in the actual indictment. The mistake was asahi’s. Mueller has his shit nailed down. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5464 "2018-07-13T20:18:52Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Here’s something else I found interesting from paragraph 43 a) of the indictment (pages 15-16 of the indictment PDF) : > > “_On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, received a request for stolen documents from a candidate for the U.S. Congress. The Conspirators responded using the Guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen document’s related to the candidate’s opponent._” > **[Democratic House Candidates Were Also Targets of Russian Hacking (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.html?_r=0)** > > The fallout for nearly a dozen congressional candidates underscores the effect of the Russian influence operation on the American electoral system. Hacked material was used in various House races. At first the hackers just released a lot of personal information, which was used by hostile individuals to harass and threaten the candidates. Then the hacks and dumps by the person or group known as Guccifer 2.0 became more sophisticated and targeted certain close races, releasing politically valuable tactical information: The seats that Guccifer 2.0 targeted in the document dumps were hardly random: They were some of the most competitive House races in the country. In [Annette] Taddeo’s district [in Florida], the House seat is held by a Republican, even though the district leans Democratic and Mrs. Clinton won it this year by a large majority. To prepare for the race, the D.C.C.C. had done candid evaluations of the two candidates vying in the primary for the nomination. Those inside documents, bluntly describing each candidate’s weaknesses, are considered routine research inside political campaigns. But suddenly they were being aired in public. Taddeo lost her primary race to another Democrat named Joe Garcia who used the hacked material against her. And then this happened: After Mr. Garcia defeated Ms. Taddeo in the primary using the material unearthed in the hacking, the National Republican Campaign Committee and a second Republican group with ties to the House speaker, Paul Ryan, turned to the hacked material to attack him. In Florida, Guccifer 2.0’s most important partner was an obscure political website run by an anonymous blogger called HelloFLA!, run by a former Florida legislative aide turned Republican lobbyist. The blogger sent direct messages via Twitter to Guccifer 2.0 asking for copies of any additional Florida documents. By September, the hacker had released documents in close House races in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois and North Carolina, working with Republican bloggers who disseminated the information for them. They also posted information on Rep. Ben Ray Luján, D-N.M., the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chair, even though he was effectively running unopposed. Both Luján and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi wrote letters to Ryan asking him not to use the material and received no response. His spokeswoman told the Times that Ryan had no control over how the stolen information was used. Nonetheless, there were some Republicans who refused to do so, saying it was inappropriate. **They were rare**. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5465 "2018-07-13T20:19:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5466 "2018-07-13T20:22:23Z")
I’d like to draw everyone’s attention to this tweet thread from Seth Abramson - > \*\*Seth Abramson ‏ Verified account @SethAbramson\*\* (IMPORTANT) Trump and his allies have been saying for a year that the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting didn’t matter because “nothing came of it.” That’s now proven false: Russia said it would give Trump Jr. Clinton “dirt” on June 9—and it launched “DCLeaks” for _that day_ to do so. Who is [DCLeaks?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCLeaks) > [@Wiki](#): > > DCLeaks (also known as DC Leaks) is a website that was established in June 2016. Since its creation, it has been responsible for publishing leaks of emails belonging to multiple prominent figures in the United States government and military. Cybersecurity research firms say the site is a front for the Russian cyber-espionage group Fancy Bear. On July 13th, 2018, an indictment was made against 12 Russian GRU military officers; it alleges that DC Leaks is part of a Russian military operation. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5467 "2018-07-13T20:24:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > This is, literally, the #1 talking point for all the bots on Twitter. Amazing to see it pop up here so quickly. > > Seriously … Amazing, or fucking SUSPICIOUS??? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5468 "2018-07-13T20:27:39Z")
My apologies if it’s already been mentioned, but I also found paragraph 70 pretty interesting (well, scary actually): Russia operatives have officially been charged with trying to hack into voter systems in an attempt to steal voter data. According to the indictment, they stole information on approximately 500,000 voters. It doesn’t say where voters were from, but it goes on to say that they tested voting systems in Georgia, Iowa, and Florida for vulnerabilities. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5469 "2018-07-13T20:28:12Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > July 27th, 2016, **morning** : “Russia, if you’re listening I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing” > > July 27th, 2016: “for example, on or about July 27th, 2016, the conspirators attempted **after hours** to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clintons personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted 76 email addresses at the domain for the Clinton campaign.” Trump described the contents of the emails released by Wikileaks as disqualifying Hillary Clinton from the presidency. Trump used Wikileaks as proof to his claims that she was corrupt and the system was corrupt — both the political system and the media. (The media, Trump insisted, would not cover Wikileaks.) Trump encouraged his supporters to read Wikileaks. He delighted in each new release. He marveled at the damage Wikileaks was doing to her campaign. Wikileaks, in short, was a core part of Trump’s closing argument against Hillary Clinton. Trump spoke about the Wikileaks emails at least 164 times from October 10 to election day, saying the word Wikileaks 124 times. That means, on average, Trump discussed Wikileaks more than five times per day. Here is a sampling: Trump to Bill O’Reilly: “Wikileaks is amazing” The problem is, Bill, I would hammer it, but the press doesn’t pick it up. The press is hardly even talking about Wikileaks. You now that. Wikileaks is amazing. The stuff that’s coming out, it shows she’s a real liar. She said, well, you have to say to the public and you have to say to your donors different things. Okay? The press doesn’t even pick this stuff up. You look at, where are you seeing it? [10/11/16] Trump: “Wikileaks, some new stuff, some brutal stuff” We have all of these new charges, did you see it just came down today? Wikileaks, some new stuff, some brutal stuff. I mean I’d read it to you but to hell with it trust me it’s real bad stuff. The speech transcripts contain scandalous revelations about Hillary Clinton that disqualify her from seeking public office. And she is. [10/10/16] Trump says Wikileaks proves Clinton should not “be able to run for president” No one who supports open borders should be able to run for president because we won’t have a country. And buy the way weeks ago I called out Hillary Clinton for supporting open borders and the media said I was wrong. Now I’ve been proven right. Where is the media rushing to correct these false stories? Because in the Wikileaks it was all about open borders. [10/10/16] Trump: “Wikileaks. I love Wikileaks” Wikileaks, I love Wikileaks. And I said write a couple of them down. Let’s see. During a speech crooked Hillary Clinton, oh she’s crooked folks. She’s crooked as a three-dollar bill. Okay here’s one. Just came out. ‘Lock her up’ is right. [10/10/16] Trump: “You see so much from these Wikileaks. You see so much. There’s so much.” It’s just the latest evidence of the hatred that the Clinton campaign really has for everyday Americans and you see, and you see so much from these Wikileaks. You see so much. There’s so much. [10/11/16] Trump: “I’ll tell you this Wikileaks stuff is unbelievable…you gotta read it.” I’ll tell you this Wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it and you gotta maybe get it because they’re not putting it out. They want to put it out but they can’t do that because without the media and without the press Hillary Clinton would be nothing. She’d be nothing. Zero. [10/12/16] Trump: “One of the big advantages of me having a rather large microphone… is that I can talk about Wikileaks” And one of the big advantages of me having a rather large microphone, and meaning a lot of people are listening, is that I can talk about Wikileaks and we are live, it’s amazing. Boom boom boom. I think they are just turning them all off. Watch, you go home, they’ll say, ‘why did it end so abruptly?’ [10/12/16] Trump: “You hear this? Wikileaks. Big stuff but the press does not report it” You hear this? Wikileaks. Big stuff but the press does not report it because honestly without the press, without the media, Hillary Clinton is nothing. She’s nothing okay? She’s nothing. [10/12/16] Trump: Wikileaks reveals Clinton would be “the most corrupt person ever elected to high office” She would be the most dishonest and the most corrupt person ever elected to high office. The Wikileaks emails show the Department of Justice fed information to Clinton, now think of this. She is under investigation. [10/12/16] Trump: Wikileaks reveals “the massive international corruption of the Clinton machine” And so now we address the slander and libels that was just last night thrown at me by the Clinton machine and New York Times and other media outlets as part of a concerted, coordinated, and vicious attack. It’s not coincidence that these attacks come at the exact same moment and altogether at the same time as Wikileaks releases documents exposing the massive international corruption of the Clinton machine, including 2,000 more emails just this morning. [10/13/16] Trump: “The sad part is we don’t talk about Wikileaks because it’s incredible.” The sad part is we don’t talk about Wikileaks because it’s incredible. But Wikileaks just came out with a lot of new ones. And it would be wonderful if these very dishonest people back there would talk about it. It would be wonderful. It would be wonderful. [10/13/16] Trump: “Wikileaks unveils horrible, horrible things about Hillary Clinton” It’s a total setup. Now suddenly after many, many years, phony accusers come out less than a month before one of the most important elections in the history of our country. It also comes at a time as Wikileaks unveils horrible, horrible things about Hillary Clinton but they’d rather talk about this. [10/14/16] Trump on Wikileaks: “There’s bad, bad stuff [the media is] not covering” The Hillary Clinton documents released by Wikileaks make more clear than ever, and they don’t cover them the way they’re supposed to be covering. There’s bad, bad stuff they’re not covering. [10/15/16] Trump: “Wikileaks came out with lots of really unbelievable things” And by the way, Wikileaks came out with lots of really unbelievable things. Just minutes ago. In fact, I almost delayed this speech by about two hours, it’s so interesting. But I decided you’re more important than anybody, okay? It’s all a big, beautiful fraud. [10/15/16] Trump: The media “will not talk about Wikileaks” The media is an extension of the Clinton campaign as Wikileaks has proven, and they will not talk about Wikileaks. [10/17/16] Trump: “Boy, that Wikileaks has done a job on her, hasn’t it?” I said open border, and she, open border, I don’t want open border but she, turned out she wanted open borders. Boy, that Wikileaks has done a job on her, hasn’t it? [10/20/16] Trump: “We’ve learned so much from Wikileaks” “We’ve learned so much from Wikileaks. For example, Hillary believes it’s vital to deceive the people by having one public policy — [booing] — And a totally different policy in private. That’s okay. [10/20/16] Trump: “We love Wikileaks. Wikileaks.” We love Wikileaks. Wikileaks. They have revealed a lot. They’ve revealed that there is a great hostility toward Catholics. They reveal a great hostility toward Evangelicals. [10/21/16] Trump: “A terrible Wikileaks was released just moments ago… you’ll be sickened by it” A terrible Wikileaks was just released moments ago, which you’ll go home, you’ll see it, and you’ll be sickened by it and that she can get away with what she’s getting away with. [10/25/16] Trump: “Wikileaks revelations have exposed criminal corruption at the highest levels of our government” The Wikileaks revelations have exposed criminal corruption at the highest levels of our government. [10/29/16] Trump: Wikileaks show “a rigged system with more collusion, probably illegal” Out today, Wikileaks just came out with a new one just a little while ago it’s just been shown that a rigged system with more collusion, probably illegal, between the Department of Justice the Clinton campaign and the State Department, you saw that. The emails show that the assistant attorney general who’s involved in the investigation has been feeding information directly to John Podesta and the Clinton campaign, can you believe that. She shouldn’t be allowed to run. [11/02/16] Trump: Wikileaks revealed Clinton was “completely jeopardizing the national security of the United States” Just today we learned Hillary Clinton was sending highly-classified information through her maid. Did you see? Just came out a little while ago. Who, therefore, had total access to this information, completely jeopardizing the national security of the United States. This just came out, Wikileaks. We need a government that can go to work on day one for the American people. That will be impossible with Hillary Clinton, the prime suspect in a far-reaching criminal investigation. [11/05/16] ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5470 "2018-07-13T20:32:21Z")
And … “Russia, if you’re listening — I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens.” July 27, 2016 Then-candidate Donald **Trump encouraged Russian hackers to go after Hillary Clinton**. And they started, on that day - if they hadn’t already. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5471 "2018-07-13T20:55:01Z")
It’s probably already been linked, but for anyone wishing to read all 29 pages of the indictment, here’s a .pdf link: [Mueller Indictment of 12 Russian Hackers](http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/reuterscom/1/73/73/netyksho_et_al_indictment.pdf). I think everyone should read it. Lays out Mueller’s case pretty well. Side note: Any Bernie Bro who thinks they weren’t manipulated by Russians should pay especial attention to Page 18. (I’m not going to retype it and risk an **asahi** moment.) I also appreciated the numerous instances where the indictment referenced Conspirators, “together with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury…” Definitely more coming. I do hope sooner rather than later. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5472 "2018-07-13T21:15:34Z")
I agree. Last thing we need are more Asahi moment’s. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5473 "2018-07-13T21:17:57Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Side note: Any Bernie Bro who thinks they weren’t manipulated by Russians should pay especial attention to Page 18. (I’m not going to retype it and risk an **asahi** moment.) You mean this? > [@](#): > > 1. On or about July 22, 2016, Organization 1 released over 20,000 emails and other > documents stolen from the DNC network by the Conspirators. This release occurred > approximately three days before the start of the Democratic National Convention. Organization 1 > did not disclose Guccifer 2.0’s role in providing them. The latest-in-time email released through > Organization 1 was dated on or about May 25, 2016, approximately the same day the Conspirators > hacked the DNC Microsoft Exchange Server. Just need to open the document in Acrobat and run it through OCR. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5474 "2018-07-13T21:18:53Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > LOL, mistake copying. I tried to use the copy/paste feature… > > ETA: To add insult to injury, I was ninja’d by **JohnT** anyway > [@Merneith](#): > > Thelma, you can see a the relevant part in a snippet from this jpg here, twitted by Peter J. Hasson - > > [https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1017805935400706052](https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1017805935400706052) > There is no apostrophe in the actual indictment. The mistake was asahi’s. Mueller has his shit nailed down. WHEW! _\_ It’s all good. Go, Bobby, go! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5475 "2018-07-13T21:30:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > You mean this? > > Just need to open the document in Acrobat and run it through OCR. I’m not great with Acrobat converstions, I’m afraid. You lost me at OCR, although I do know what it stands for. I meant this part (it actually starts on page 17 and I’ll type it out): > [@](#): > > a. On or about June 22, 2016, Organization 1 sent a private message to Guccifer 2.0 to “[s]end any new material [stolen from the DNC] here for us to review and it will have a much higher impact than what you are doing.” On or about July 6, 2016, Organization 1 added, “if you have anything hillary related we want it in the next tweo (_sic_) days prefable (_sic_) because the DNC [Democratic National Convention] is approaching and she will solidify bernie supporters behind her after.” The Conspirators responded, “ok . . . i see.” Organization 1 explained, “we think trump has only a 25% chance of winning against hillary . . . so conflict between bernie and hillary is interesting.” The point being, it was very much a goal of the Russians to exploit the division between Bernie and Hillary. It was one of the first things I noticed that was really off during the election. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5476 "2018-07-13T21:42:36Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’m not great with Acrobat converstions, I’m afraid. You lost me at OCR, although I do know what it stands for. It’s one of the tools in Acrobat Pro, converts an entire PDF image to text. Which then can be copy/pasted. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5477 "2018-07-13T21:42:42Z")
Missed the edit window: I wanted to clarify that I wasn’t disparaging **asahi** with my comment. His was an easy enough mistake to make, and there are surely many misplaced apostrophes on this board. I genuinely meant I didn’t want to risk making a similar mistake in typing out that particular text in the indictment. It’s a little torturous. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5478 "2018-07-13T21:44:30Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > It’s one of the tools in Acrobat Pro, converts an entire PDF image to text. Which then can be copy/pasted. Yeah, I only have the free Reader version. I don’t generally have a use for Acrobat Pro. I think there are some free OCR software packages out there, but I can’t be bothered. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5479 "2018-07-13T22:03:39Z")
> [@johnt](#): > > i agree. Last thing we need are more asahi moment’s. iswydt 😉 ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5480 "2018-07-13T22:14:17Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Russia will attack America’s elections process again. Intelligence officials, journalists, and the Democrats will protest, while the Republican kleptocrats will invite Russia to hack away and try to cover it up afterwards. > > And if Republicans lose, you can expect them to turnaround and disingenuously use Russian meddling, which they now want, as an excuse to invalidate the election results, and they will foment a constitutional crisis. Russia could just cause a wide-spread electrical grid shut down on November 6, and it doesn’t matter what the election results are. The whole thing would end up with Trump saying he won the election. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/5481 "2018-07-13T22:38:59Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Russia could just cause a wide-spread electrical grid shut down on November 6, and it doesn’t matter what the election results are. The whole thing would end up with Trump saying he won the election. Or the election could be decided by Colorado, Oregon and Washington (the three states which conduct elections only by mail). Wouldn’t look good for CFSG, but I for one am willing to (have him) make the sacrifice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=273) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=275)