# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 340
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6783 "2018-08-24T10:51:28Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Natasha? Don’t forget moose and squirrel. Maybe he meant Ivanka. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6784 "2018-08-24T12:09:32Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Natasha? > [@Crotalus](#): > > Don’t forget moose and squirrel. > > Maybe he meant Ivanka. And Boris. Don’t forget Boris. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6785 "2018-08-24T12:22:31Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > They were probably busy with their own pecker problems. 😃 And the NY Daily News went with Pecker In A Vise Ouch! ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6786 "2018-08-24T13:05:11Z")
[New York](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges-vance.html) is going after the Trump Organization. I can’t imagine even Trump’s most ardent fans think that his organization’s finances will withstand a whole lot of scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6787 "2018-08-24T13:48:29Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > On the topic of people associated with the Russian Election Interference investigation going to jail, I can’t remember, but was this [patriotic freedom-fighter, railing against the oppressive, outrageous cover-up](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-leaks/reality-winner-to-be-sentenced-for-leaking-top-secret-u-s-report-idUSKCN1L81FD?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews), uncovered by Mueller? So the only one going to jail so far is on the democrat side? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6788 "2018-08-24T13:53:02Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > So the only one going to jail so far is on the democrat side? WTF? Keep trying, dude; maybe you’ll get someone to bite. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6789 "2018-08-24T13:53:07Z")
Biting: You aren’t impressed with guilty pleas (sp?) or convictions? Just the act of going to jail? Patience, Grasshopper. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6790 "2018-08-24T13:57:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Biting: > You aren’t impressed with guilty pleas (sp?) or convictions? Just the act of going to jail? Patience, Grasshopper. Even there, [Alex Van Der Zwaan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_van_der_Zwaan) did 30 days and was subsequently deported, so Mueller’s investigations have led to some jail already. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6791 "2018-08-24T14:07:37Z")
Isn’t Manafort currently cooling his heels in the pokey while waiting for trial number two? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6792 "2018-08-24T14:35:55Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > Isn’t Manafort currently cooling his heels in the pokey while waiting for trial number two? He’s been in the bighouse ever since he broke his bail conditions in June. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6793 "2018-08-24T14:58:06Z")
This just in-- Trump Organizaton CFO Allen Weisselberg was granted immunity in the Cohen probe. > **[Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg granted immunity in Cohen probe](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/longtime-trump-organization-cfo-weisselberg-granted-immunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html)** > > Allen Weisselberg was subpoenaed by prosecutors earlier this year to testify before a grand jury as part of the probe. Welcome to Friday !! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6794 "2018-08-24T15:09:22Z")
> [@slumtrimpet](#): > > Isn’t Manafort currently cooling his heels in the pokey while waiting for trial number two? > [@friedo](#): > > He’s been in the bighouse ever since he broke his bail conditions in June. He’s probably safer in there than running around loose. Of course, if someone did want to do him harm, stone walls and iron bars wouldn’t protect him. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6795 "2018-08-24T15:12:39Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Keep trying, dude; maybe you’ll get someone to bite. “Hey everybody, look over there! No… not there. _There_! See where I’m pointing? _Hello_? Is anyone hearing me?” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6796 "2018-08-24T15:35:14Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This just in-- Trump Organizaton CFO Allen Weisselberg was granted immunity in the Cohen probe. > > [https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/longtime-trump-organization-cfo-weisselberg-granted-immunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/longtime-trump-organization-cfo-weisselberg-granted-immunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html) > > Welcome to Friday !! DING! DING! DING! DING! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP! Mayday! Trumpforce1 requests landing at nearest runway! Mayday! Mayday! Woop! Woop! Woop! Pull up! Woop! Woop! Woop! Pull up! Woop! Woop! Woop! Pull up! Trump is going to absolutely flip out now! The guy who knows where his money is - or at least who has his money - granted immunity. Hooooolllleeeeee shit! ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6797 "2018-08-24T15:38:15Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > This just in-- Trump Organizaton CFO Allen Weisselberg was granted immunity in the Cohen probe. I thought Cohen already pleaded guilty. Why are they granting immunity to Weisselberg and Pecker? Are they going after Cohen for other crimes, or going after someone else? ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6798 "2018-08-24T15:38:53Z")
This morning I came downstairs and someone had left the Wall Street Journal open to an op-ed called “When Justice is Partial”, complaining that “Mueller is determined to sniff out wrongdoing- on only one side”. :rolleyes: Call me crazy, but maybe- just hear me out- maybe he’s only finding wrongdoing on one side because\* that’s the side that’s doing the wrong\*. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6799 "2018-08-24T15:43:47Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > This morning I came downstairs and someone had left the Wall Street Journal open to an op-ed called “When Justice is Partial”, complaining that “Mueller is determined to sniff out wrongdoing- on only one side”. :rolleyes: > > Call me crazy, but maybe- just hear me out- maybe he’s only finding wrongdoing on one side because\* that’s the side that’s doing the wrong\*. Its also the side hes mandated to investigate (russian interference, what/if any trump campaign) - of course, if he finds evidence of the other side - he can pursue it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6800 "2018-08-24T15:46:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Trump is going to absolutely flip out now! The guy who knows where his money is - or at least who has his money - granted immunity. > > Hooooolllleeeeee shit! Yup. That’s great. Taken down by gold diggers, a grocery store tabloid, his own lawyer and the CFO of his own organization. Shit, we’re running out of room for the Russian hookers (not to mention the conspiracy to defraud the electorate.) And I’m starting to get the feeling that Sessions is getting so pissed at Trump maybe he’ll start his OWN investigation into him. That, would be great. No cites, just a feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6801 "2018-08-24T15:50:53Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > I thought Cohen already pleaded guilty. Why are they granting immunity to Weisselberg and Pecker? Are they going after Cohen for other crimes, or going after someone else? They’re going up the ladder. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6802 "2018-08-24T15:58:26Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > They’re going up the ladder. Those darn flippers. Oughta be illegal. They just keep going. High as they can go. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=339) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=341)