# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 342
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6823 "2018-08-24T21:09:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Dude, it’s Trump. > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Dude - it’s Trump. The new shorthand for explaining the latest hourly example of modern political insanity? 'Cause a calming mantra it ain’t. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6824 "2018-08-24T21:13:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Dude, it’s Trump. Why are you wasting bandwidth in this attempt to convince yourself it’s not? I want to win, or lose, five dollars? As for Sessions, I loathe that miserable elf so much that my reality cannot accommodate honorable behavior, such as standiing up to a bully and respecting the rule of law, on his part. Oh, dear heavens, Pence advised relying on rumor and gossip for news. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6825 "2018-08-24T21:19:27Z")
> [@j666](#): > > As for Sessions, I loathe that miserable elf so much that my reality cannot accommodate honorable behavior, such as standiing up to a bully and respecting the rule of law, on his part. Personally, I suspect that he’s one of the sources that the FBI had against Trump, from when they opened their investigation. I’ll grant that, if he had any part to play in the policy to arrest people who made lawful asylum requests, he’s still a criminal. But it seems to be limited to specific topics, and in other areas he’s still a “by-the-book” law keeper. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6826 "2018-08-24T21:26:20Z")
When all of these Russian contacts started hitting the press with Manafort 2 years ago, Pence was really quick to try distance himself. My WAG is Pence had some contact that was not reported and/or was privy in some way to getting Russian dirt on Hillary without flagging it to the FBI. It sure would be a two-fer to take down both Trump and Pence, and the Presidency passes to the Democratic speaker of the house post mid-terms. Of course, the partisan Republicans out there will fight this tooth and nail. It’s one thing to have Pence replace The Donald, it’s another thing entirely if the torch passes outside the party. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6827 "2018-08-24T21:47:11Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > When all of these Russian contacts started hitting the press with Manafort 2 years ago, Pence was really quick to try distance himself. My WAG is Pence had some contact that was not reported and/or was privy in some way to getting Russian dirt on Hillary without flagging it to the FBI. It sure would be a two-fer to take down both Trump and Pence, and the Presidency passes to the Democratic speaker of the house post mid-terms. Of course, the partisan Republicans out there will fight this tooth and nail. It’s one thing to have Pence replace The Donald, it’s another thing entirely if the torch passes outside the party. From day one, it has seemed to me that they have Pence on the sidelines, quiet and protected, for the inevitable removal of Trump. The only weird thing about that, is the puppy dog eyes Pence makes at Trump. I would have thought the instructions were to appear independent. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6828 "2018-08-24T22:42:33Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Personally, I suspect that he’s one of the sources that the FBI had against Trump, from when they opened their investigation. > > I’ll grant that, if he had any part to play in the policy to arrest people who made lawful asylum requests, he’s still a criminal. But it seems to be limited to specific topics, and in other areas he’s still a “by-the-book” law keeper. Sessions is the Severus Snape of the Trump Administration. Kind of an asshole, with a loathesome personal philosophy, a taste for cruelty, and an initial alliance with evil. But in the ongoing fight against He Who Must Not Be Named, he’s on the side of the good guys. Probably for the wrong reasons, but he’s got more guts than a lot of them and he’s doing his part. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6829 "2018-08-24T23:04:18Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I want to win, or lose, five dollars? > > As for Sessions, I loathe that miserable elf so much that my reality cannot accommodate honorable behavior, such as standiing up to a bully and respecting the rule of law, on his part. I totally get that. It’s like stumbling on a few minutes of redeeming social value in a snuff film, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6830 "2018-08-25T00:10:06Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > From day one, it has seemed to me that they have Pence on the sidelines, quiet and protected, for the inevitable removal of Trump. > > The only weird thing about that, is the puppy dog eyes Pence makes at Trump. I would have thought the instructions were to appear independent. Uh. The House and Senate has had PLENTY of ammo to remove Trump and install Pence. If that was their plan. If that was their plan, I suspect they might be as surprised as the rest of us that Trump supporters would gladly drag them out in the middle of the night and lynch them from the nearest lamp post. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6831 "2018-08-25T00:23:19Z")
An aide to Roger Stone has been [granted immunity](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/24/roger-stone-aide-andrew-miller-resisting-robert-mueller-pkg-murray-vpx.cnn). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6832 "2018-08-25T00:24:35Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > An aide to Roger Stone has been [granted immunity](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/24/roger-stone-aide-andrew-miller-resisting-robert-mueller-pkg-murray-vpx.cnn). I’m starting to understand why the Howling Yam is an anti-vaxxer. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6833 "2018-08-25T00:33:24Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Sessions is the Severus Snape of the Trump Administration. Kind of an asshole, with a loathesome personal philosophy, a taste for cruelty, and an initial alliance with evil. But in the ongoing fight against He Who Must Not Be Named, he’s on the side of the good guys. Probably for the wrong reasons, but he’s got more guts than a lot of them and he’s doing his part. I think you nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6834 "2018-08-25T00:35:25Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Sessions is the Severus Snape of the Trump Administration. Kind of an asshole, with a loathesome personal philosophy, a taste for cruelty, and an initial alliance with evil. But in the ongoing fight against He Who Must Not Be Named, he’s on the side of the good guys. Probably for the wrong reasons, but he’s got more guts than a lot of them and he’s doing his part. There does have to be some reason this dude has stayed on in the face of all reason. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6835 "2018-08-25T01:03:58Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > There does have to be some reason this dude has stayed on in the face of all reason. Sessions has his own agenda: he wants to do away with civil rights for minorities. He is of the Old South, and he is on a mission. That’s why he’ll never resign. He won’t let thump or anyone stop him. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6836 "2018-08-25T01:20:19Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > There does have to be some reason this dude has stayed on in the face of all reason. Well there is this whole very likely to get to be president thing. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6837 "2018-08-25T01:32:30Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Well there is this whole very likely to get to be president thing. He’s on a mission. From God. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6838 "2018-08-25T02:18:40Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Personally, I suspect that he’s one of the sources that the FBI had against Trump, from when they opened their investigation. Ah, thank you; that’s low and self-righteous enough, and now it looks like his efforts are coming to fruition. He’s not standing up now because bullying and subverting the rule of law are wrong, he’s doing it because he can get away with it. > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I totally get that. It’s like stumbling on a few minutes of redeeming social value in a snuff film, isn’t it? Worse. > [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Sessions is the Severus Snape of the Trump Administration. Kind of an asshole, with a loathesome personal philosophy, a taste for cruelty, and an initial alliance with evil. But in the ongoing fight against He Who Must Not Be Named, he’s on the side of the good guys. Probably for the wrong reasons, but he’s got more guts than a lot of them and he’s doing his part. You wrong Snape. "An aide to Roger Stone has been granted immunity. " We’re gonna run out of popcorn. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6839 "2018-08-25T02:28:17Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Sessions is the Severus Snape of the Trump Administration. Kind of an asshole, with a loathesome personal philosophy, a taste for cruelty, and an initial alliance with evil. But in the ongoing fight against He Who Must Not Be Named, he’s on the side of the good guys. Probably for the wrong reasons, but he’s got more guts than a lot of them and he’s doing his part. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > There does have to be some reason this dude has stayed on in the face of all reason. **Toxgoddess** was talking about Sessions. The following two replies seem to be about Pence. > [@steatopygia](#): > > Well there is this whole very likely to get to be president thing. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > He’s on a mission. From God. Although both Sessions and Pence are on missions from God. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6840 "2018-08-25T02:46:55Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > **Toxgoddess** was talking about Sessions. The following two replies seem to be about Pence. > > Although both Sessions and Pence are on missions from God. You are right, I was talking about Pence. I need a daily program. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6841 "2018-08-25T03:17:02Z")
Ex-Trump World Tower doorman releases ‘catch-and-kill’ contract about alleged Trump affair > **[EXCLUSIVE: ex-Trump World Tower doorman's "catch-and-kill" contract released...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/politics/trump-tower-doorman-contract-ami/index.html)** > > A former Trump World Tower doorman who says he has knowledge of an alleged affair President Donald Trump had with an ex-housekeeper, which resulted in a child, is now able to talk about a contract he entered with American Media Inc. that had... Guy was signed to a contract which prevented him from telling his knowledge of a Trump love child. Because of Peckers cooperation, he has been released from the agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/6842 "2018-08-25T03:34:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I’m starting to understand why the Howling Yam is an anti-vaxxer. This made my day. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=341) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=343)