# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 357
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7123 "2018-09-22T03:51:33Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sorry for the delay in answering; I just fell off my chair at the thought of Hannity saying something that would (inadvertently, I’m sure) protect Mueller. LOL, panic ensues. The Fox “News” crowd actually believes that if Trump holds off on firing Rosenstein till after the mid-terms, it will save Congress from a Democratic takeover of the House (at a minimum). But congressional Republicans know they are in real danger of losing the whole banana, so feel they need to act ahead of the mid-terms. This is the only explanation I can think of that accounts for the split between congressional Republicans salivating at the idea of getting Rosenstein fired before the mid-terms, and Fox “News” Hannity screaming, “Not yet!! NOT YET!!” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7124 "2018-09-22T03:53:37Z")
Let’s not forget that Hannity is client #3 and may have his own reasons… whatever they may be… to tamper in this thing. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7125 "2018-09-22T12:43:08Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [NYTimes is reporting](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html) that Rosenstein may have secretly recorded the president and discussed 25th Amendment options. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks this is being leaked as a pretext to fire him… From the infamous anonymous op-ed to this, The New York times has been getting played pretty badly as of late. ---
**Author:** ![catflea12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@catflea12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catflea12)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7126 "2018-09-22T14:12:52Z")
Now I bet Trump decides the NYT is telling the truth, as apposed to all the lies they printed before. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7127 "2018-09-22T15:35:40Z")
He forced them to. Sure showed them a thing or two! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7128 "2018-09-22T18:30:58Z")
Former national security aide KT McFarland has had to backtrack on her responses to Mueller questioning and is now admitting that she did have a conversation with Michael Flynn about sanctions with Sergey Kislyak. [https://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-wh-official-k-t-mcfarland-reportedly-revised-her-statement-on-flynn-calls-with-russian-ambassador/](https://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-wh-official-k-t-mcfarland-reportedly-revised-her-statement-on-flynn-calls-with-russian-ambassador/) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7129 "2018-09-22T23:14:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Former national security aide KT McFarland has had to backtrack on her responses to Mueller questioning and is now admitting that she did have a conversation with Michael Flynn about sanctions with Sergey Kislyak. > [KT McFarland | Mediaite](https://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-wh-official-k-t-mcfarland-reportedly-revised-her-statement-on-flynn-calls-with-russian-ambassador/) At this point we know exactly what a denial from a Trump official about meetings with (or about) Russians is worth… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7130 "2018-09-23T14:14:15Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [NYTimes is reporting](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html) that Rosenstein may have secretly recorded the president and discussed 25th Amendment options. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks this is being leaked as a pretext to fire him… That is what I suspect, too. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7131 "2018-09-23T14:16:33Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sorry for the delay in answering; I just fell off my chair at the thought of Hannity saying something that would (inadvertently, I’m sure) protect Mueller. Just spitballing… What if he is afraid Meuller has something on him too? He was pretty chummy with Cohen for a while too. Oh, JohnT beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7132 "2018-09-23T14:17:56Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Former national security aide KT McFarland has had to backtrack on her responses to Mueller questioning and is now admitting that she did have a conversation with Michael Flynn about sanctions with Sergey Kislyak. > [KT McFarland | Mediaite](https://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-wh-official-k-t-mcfarland-reportedly-revised-her-statement-on-flynn-calls-with-russian-ambassador/) Lying under oath??? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7133 "2018-09-23T16:00:58Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Lying under oath??? Yeah, what is he, bucking for a SCOTUS seat? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7134 "2018-09-23T21:20:43Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Just spitballing… What if he is afraid Meuller has something on him too? He was pretty chummy with Cohen for a while too. > Oh, JohnT beat me to it. I think you’re both right: Hannity’s self-interest is to the fore, here. Not only because he may have his own legal exposure to worry about, but because he benefits professionally (if you can call it that) from Trump continuing to be President. And he may believe those who think a firing spree at Justice could quickly result in wins in November for Democrats, which could result in impeachment getting a Yea vote and being sent over to a Senate that, horrors, could be Dem-majority, too. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Yeah, what is he, bucking for a SCOTUS seat? “She,” and, given recent history, yeah: she may have just put herself in the running! The Trump Administration does seem to value those ready liars. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7135 "2018-09-24T00:22:41Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Sarah Palin accidentally describes [how investigations work](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/407485-sarah-palin-mueller-will-keep-fishing-until-he-gets-something). > > \*“When we go fishing, have we ever stopped before we caught something?” Palin told DailyMailTV of the Russia investigation in an interview published Wednesday. “No…we keep fishing.” > > 'Unfortunately, that is what’s going on in our country,” the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee said.\* She always was pretty fucking stupid. Isn’t her five minutes of “fame” up yet??? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7136 "2018-09-24T01:25:15Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > She always was pretty fucking stupid. Isn’t her five minutes of “fame” up yet??? Yes. She’s too stupid to know it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7137 "2018-09-24T02:51:41Z")
Meanwhile, Mueller’s got a boat full of Trout and never even glanced at a fishing pole. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7138 "2018-09-24T15:03:42Z")
Rosenstein resigning, per Axios. NBC is reporting that he will be fired. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7139 "2018-09-24T15:05:52Z")
I’ve heard conflicting accounts on twitter of whether Rosenstein is resigning or being fired. I think the difference matters, because if he resigns, the WH can fill the vacancy with anyone who’s already been approved by the Senate for some other job, but not if he’s been fired. Which makes me hope that he didn’t resign. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7140 "2018-09-24T15:29:48Z")
Time to hit the streets. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7141 "2018-09-24T16:53:29Z")
CNN reporting that Trump will make a decision on Rosenstein on Thursday. And, wouldn’t you know it, that happens to be the day of these Kavanaugh hearings. I hope that wasn’t intended to distract anyone from one shitshow by putting in another shitshow. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7142 "2018-09-24T17:07:27Z")
Someone explain to me in words of one syllable why Rosenstein might feel he has to resign. Yeah, he made some intemperate remarks which were recorded. But he didn’t DO anything about them. In the current climate, given all the other shit that’s flying around, why is this the Crime of the Century? \ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=356) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=358)