# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 362
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7223 "2018-10-19T18:47:30Z")
I wonder if he has bone spurs. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7224 "2018-10-19T18:48:56Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1053346332063219712?s=19](https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1053346332063219712?s=19) Was you trying to pull a Vincent (Vinny the Chin) Gigante manouver? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7225 "2018-10-19T19:16:27Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1053346332063219712?s=19](https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1053346332063219712?s=19) Wasn’t he just two days ago whining about not being allowed to wear a suit in court? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7226 "2018-10-19T19:36:11Z")
New indictment against Russians: [https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1102316/download?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=govdelivery](https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1102316/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7227 "2018-10-22T09:15:01Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > New indictment against Russians: > > [https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1102316/download?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=govdelivery](https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1102316/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery) A new Russian, or a new charge against an already-indicted Russian? There are so many… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7228 "2018-10-22T17:28:39Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > New indictment against Russians: > > [https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1102316/download?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=govdelivery](https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1102316/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery) Glad to see it, but I just want to point out this one doesn’t originate with Mueller’s team. Rather, it was filed by the FBI field office in the Eastern District of Virginia. Still, it ties back to “Putin’s Chef,” one of Mueller’s Russians. So pleased if Mueller is spreading the love around. Also interesting it was filed under seal on September 28th. I wonder why it was unsealed now. Glad it was, as it serves as a warning for people to be mindful of their sources of information as we approach the mid-term election. Maybe that was the point. The detail is gratifying in that the FBI is able to determine what is happening in such a granular fashion, yet simultaneously depressing to see how deep the Russian penetration into our social media goes. What a fascinating and horrifying read. I wish everyone would take the time to read it. Thanks for the link, **Sage Rat**. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7229 "2018-10-23T22:01:22Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Manafort was wheeled into court in Alexandria today in a wheel chair, wearing only 1 shoe. Lawyers say his health is a concern and needs to be moved. > > Sentencing set for Feb. 9 > > [https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1053346332063219712?s=19](https://twitter.com/JuliaEAinsley/status/1053346332063219712?s=19) I think it’s a phony ploy, but even if it isn’t - then tough shit. To hell with him. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7230 "2018-10-24T00:12:11Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I think it’s a phony ploy, but even if it isn’t - then tough shit. To hell with him. I think it was too, but what lawyer thinks a judge is going to fall for that? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7231 "2018-10-24T00:42:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I think it was too, but what lawyer thinks a judge is going to fall for that? **UltraVires**? ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7232 "2018-10-24T00:47:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I think it was too, but what lawyer thinks a judge is going to fall for that? Manafort, Cohen, pretty much every lawyer that allows themselves to be associated with the worst client in the world. You know the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7233 "2018-10-24T01:00:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > **UltraVires**? Ok, I howled. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7234 "2018-10-24T01:16:56Z")
I hope I never hear these words from a lawyer: “Here’s the strategy, you’re goin in there in a wheelchair, and you’re missin a shoe!” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7235 "2018-10-24T01:50:50Z")
“OK, the Judge gave you the electric chair. That’s a kick in the pants, sure!..” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7236 "2018-10-24T22:00:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I hope I never hear these words from a lawyer: “Here’s the strategy, you’re goin in there in a wheelchair, and you’re missin a shoe!” The missing shoe is supposedly because of gout–once known as the Rich Man’s Disease. So, faking gout might not be a great strategy. Manafort already has that “$15,000 jacket” reputation working against him. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7237 "2018-10-30T17:26:49Z")
Some asshole named Jack Burkmann is apparently going around offering to pay women to make false accusations of workplace sexual harassment against Robert Mueller. Via [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/?utm_term=2018-10-30T17%3A14%3A35&utm_campaign=atlantic-politics-and-policy&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter): > [@](#): > > An alleged scheme to pay off women to fabricate sexual assault allegations against Special Counsel Robert Mueller has been referred to the FBI for further investigation, according to a spokesman for the special counsel’s office, Peter Carr. “When we learned last week of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the Special Counsel, we immediately referred the matter to the FBI for investigation,” Carr said in a statement on Tuesday. > > The special counsel’s attention to this scheme—which was brought to the office by a woman claiming she herself had been offered money to make up sexual harassment claims against Mueller—and its decision to release a rare statement about it to reporters indicates the seriousness with which the office is taking the purported scheme to discredit Mueller in the middle of an ongoing investigation. > > The special counsel’s office confirmed that the scheme was brought to its attention by several journalists who were told about it by a woman alleging that she herself had been offered roughly $20,000 by a GOP activist named Jack Burkman “to make accusations of sexual misconduct and workplace harassment against Robert Mueller.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7238 "2018-10-30T17:40:25Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Some asshole named Jack Burkmann is apparently going around offering to pay women to make false accusations of workplace sexual harassment against Robert Mueller. > > Via [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/?utm_term=2018-10-30T17%3A14%3A35&utm_campaign=atlantic-politics-and-policy&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter): Totally something you would do if you thought that Mueller would come up empty. ---
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7239 "2018-10-30T17:44:44Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Some asshole named Jack Burkmann is apparently going around offering to pay women to make false accusations of workplace sexual harassment against Robert Mueller. > > Via [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/?utm_term=2018-10-30T17%3A14%3A35&utm_campaign=atlantic-politics-and-policy&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter): This is something Democrats do. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7240 "2018-10-30T17:48:03Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > This is something Democrats do. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7241 "2018-10-30T17:50:43Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Some asshole named Jack Burkmann is apparently going around offering to pay women to make false accusations of workplace sexual harassment against Robert Mueller. > > Via [The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/?utm_term=2018-10-30T17%3A14%3A35&utm_campaign=atlantic-politics-and-policy&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter): I wonder if this is a loony right wing plan considering they were [talking about breaking news](https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1057133133861085184)yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7242 "2018-10-30T17:53:59Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > This is something Democrats do. That’s just projection! I came here for an argument! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=361) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=363)