# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 368
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7343 "2018-11-02T12:39:57Z")
> [@HelenTroy](#): > > To stand by prior statements of mine, I would like the FBI to investigate these accusations fully to ensure no crimes have been committed. Well, on the plus side: > **[18 U.S. Code § 1038 - False information and hoaxes](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1038)** On the downside, I found this while Googling: > **[Hate-Crime Hoaxing For Fun And Profit (Right-Wing Rants! Book 1) - Kindle...](https://www.amazon.com/Hate-Crime-Hoaxing-Profit-Right-Wing-Rants-ebook/dp/B01AF7WG6S)** > > Hate-Crime Hoaxing For Fun And Profit (Right-Wing Rants! Book 1) - Kindle edition by Rolls, Michael. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading... The fun part of the modern world is that the Internet allows you to bypass gatekeepers. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7344 "2018-11-02T12:49:28Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I try to publish something every morning. Occasionally publication is delayed until lunchtime, after I’ve had coffee or a bran muffin. Always good to meet a colleague working in the same medium. Yeah, I just love swimmin’ in the shyt here - nice distraction from a busy day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7345 "2018-11-02T13:03:20Z")
> [@HelenTroy](#): > > [https://twitter.com/bitburner/status/1058104327485542400](https://twitter.com/bitburner/status/1058104327485542400) > > [https://twitter.com/cbouzy/status/1058109416170536960](https://twitter.com/cbouzy/status/1058109416170536960) I have to say that sometimes Twitter makes absolutely no sense to me. Reading that thread is like watching a Transformers movie from the front row of the theater. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7346 "2018-11-02T13:37:22Z")
And Jacob Wohl, creator of fake websites, was too stupid to register [jacobwohl.com](http://jacobwohl.com). > **[Jacob Wohl Official Website](https://jacobwohl.org)** > > Jacob Wohl's Official Website features his latest writings and analysis. Jacob Wohl is a 21 year old political operative and specialist in information warfare. Someone that’s smarter than him took advantage of this fact. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7347 "2018-11-02T13:55:07Z")
That is a thing of beauty, Ann. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7348 "2018-11-02T14:27:56Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I have to say that sometimes Twitter makes absolutely no sense to me. Reading that thread is like watching a Transformers movie from the front row of the theater. I’m right there with ya on the Twitter thing. And, I had the misfortune of watching a Transformers movie from the front row. I think I still have a headache from it. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7349 "2018-11-02T15:54:37Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Politico has an [interesting story](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060) that makes the circumstantial case that Mueller has subpoenaed the president, and that that subpoena is being fought over in federal court. The only flaw I see in the author’s reasoning is that Trump and Giuliani would keep quiet. I’m sure if _the witness_ was Trump and his appeals didn’t go through, he’d have bitched about it on Twitter at the very least. Trump isn’t clandestine about anything, unless it involves his tax forms. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7350 "2018-11-02T16:50:43Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The only flaw I see in the author’s reasoning is that Trump and Giuliani would keep quiet. I’m sure if _the witness_ was Trump and his appeals didn’t go through, he’d have bitched about it on Twitter at the very least. Trump isn’t clandestine about anything, unless it involves his tax forms. It’s funny you should say that, because have you noticed that Trump hasn’t mentioned Mueller in October? It seems like for a while there he was attacking Mueller every day by name in pretty strenuous terms and then maybe six weeks ago it just . . . stopped. The only way this makes sense to me is if his lawyers have beat him down about all these tweets appearing as exhibits in support of _something_. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7351 "2018-11-02T16:56:00Z")
But that was also before he had the approaching Doom Armageddon Of Death Caravan to concern himself with. He’s a worried man, now. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7352 "2018-11-02T19:39:12Z")
Trump embraces the fleeting nature of the Internet. Whatever embarrassing soul-crushing disaster made instantly known to millions gets replaced the next day by something just as horrible that happens to somebody else. In Trump’s case, the incoming tide of nation-overthrowing immigrants replaced Mueller. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7353 "2018-11-02T20:19:13Z")
Judge denies Trump’s request for stay in hotel Emoluments case: > ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7354 "2018-11-02T20:33:06Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > I’d just like to thank all the participants in thread for their enthusiastic demonstration of willful ignorance. > > You know who you are. 😉 Oh, we know, alright. yeah. WE know. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7355 "2018-11-02T20:37:08Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Yes. This ‘revelation of Mueller’s plan’ is almost certainly invented by the right. It’s a tactic intended to cause reactions such as that ThelmaLou has described. > > In reality, we’re going to see a lot more indictments and guilty pleas by those involved, before any ‘final presentation’ of Mueller’s findings to Mr. Rosenstein (or more likely, to whoever replaces Jeff Sessions–a new A.G. who won’t be recused). Rosenstein-or-Sessions’Successor might be minded to deep-six Mueller’s report. But that would come after a lot more actions (which might include Roger Stone or even Trump relations being indicted). Keeping the report secret will be a lot harder under those circumstances. Trump has not been making much noise about “the Russia thing” and “witch hunts lately”. It’s been more about racist shit, the latest being about shooting refugees at the border. I wonder… is he maybe getting nervous abut the hoped for Blue Wave and what sort of bomb Meuller MIGHT drop on him after the midterm elections??? I’ve been getting rumors about subpoenas and indictments. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7356 "2018-11-02T20:47:30Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In all seriousness, this is evidence of the problem of inherited wealth and status in this country. It is pretty fucking obvious that Jacob Wohl is not qualified, based on merit, to do much of anything. He started a conspiracy that fell apart within minutes in absolutely laughable fashion. He thought he was qualified to do this, and he had no idea that he was way, way over his head. Because he’s been a “success” in life. But, that’s only because of his parents and his parents’ parents, that put him in positions to start hedge funds (which turned out to be frauds) and have the ear of the president of the United States. He didn’t build that. But he thinks he did. > > Imagine what this country could be with a true meritocracy. Most of these ASSHOLES would be on street corners, asking for spare change. or scrubbing OUR toilets. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7357 "2018-11-02T21:06:06Z")
Jacob Wohl’s “investigation” firm took $1200 fro a woman who hired them for their PI services, then shut down without giving her her money back. > **[Jacob Wohl’s Fake P.I. Firm Ghosted on Ex-Homeless Woman Looking For Her...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohls-fake-pi-firm-ghosted-on-a-destitute-woman-looking-for-her-stolen-truck)** > > At the same time he was trying to frame Robert Mueller, the Trump-loving huckster took on another case. It, too, has gone poorly. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7358 "2018-11-02T21:07:03Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Trump embraces the fleeting nature of the Internet. Whatever embarrassing soul-crushing disaster made instantly known to millions gets replaced the next day by something just as horrible that happens to somebody else. In Trump’s case, the incoming tide of nation-overthrowing immigrants replaced Mueller. He’s running his so-called presidency like a reality TV show and the only thing that matter is THAT DAY’S RATINGS. The ratings meter zeroes out every morning. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7359 "2018-11-02T22:48:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He’s running his so-called presidency like a reality TV show and the only thing that matter is THAT DAY’S RATINGS. The ratings meter zeroes out every morning. If it works, then the greater issue isn’t Trump, it’s that now everyone knows that it works. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7360 "2018-11-02T23:10:41Z")
So. . . a special investigation being conducted by the Dept of Justice of the USA, on behalf of the American public, whose budget is wholly funded by taxpayer dollars, over $17 million of which has been spent on this investigation. . . how is it possible that the public will not get to see the final report? mc ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7361 "2018-11-03T00:03:41Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > So. . . a special investigation being conducted by the Dept of Justice of the USA, on behalf of the American public, whose budget is wholly funded by taxpayer dollars, over $17 million of which has been spent on this investigation. . . how is it possible that the public will not get to see the final report? > > mc Trump only just released the FBI documents on JFK. We will get the report. That doesn’t mean that we’ll get it in any time to make use of it. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7362 "2018-11-03T15:58:50Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > …wholly funded by taxpayer dollars, over $17 million of which has been spent on this investigation… You can pretty much kiss ALL those tax dollars goodbye, regardless of what they are being spent on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=367) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=369)