# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 371
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7403 "2018-11-07T17:40:05Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Looks like there could be a Don Jr indictment soon. > > [Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon](http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/donald-trump-jr-expecting-to-be-indicted-by-mueller-soon.html) I want there to be way more than perjury. The republican party is perfectly willing, and has, to overlook much worse. I don’t see little Donnie pleading guilty and quietly doing time like Cohen. If it’s _just_ perjury, it will be spun as a political attack. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7404 "2018-11-07T17:43:08Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Nunez and Rohrbacher are now GONE… Nunes was re-elected. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7405 "2018-11-07T17:58:06Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Nunes was re-elected. True, but he’s probably not going to be keeping his committee seat. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7406 "2018-11-07T19:44:47Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Nunez and Rohrbacher are now GONE… Nunes won. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7407 "2018-11-07T19:51:17Z")
Sessions out as AG. Gee, who didn’t see that one coming? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7408 "2018-11-07T19:58:19Z")
Not even Trump, according to the press conference he gave earlier today. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7409 "2018-11-07T20:00:01Z")
Sessions’s interim replacement, Matthew Whitaker, wrote in 2017 that Mueller’s investigation was going too far. > **[Mueller's investigation of Trump is going too far | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/06/opinions/rosenstein-should-curb-mueller-whittaker-opinion/index.html)** > > Probing the finances of the President or his family goes beyond special counsel Robert Mueller's purview, says former federal prosecutor Matthew Whittaker. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7410 "2018-11-07T20:00:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Not even Trump, according to the press conference he gave earlier today. According to Sessions’s resignation letter, he was resigning at Trump’s request. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7411 "2018-11-07T20:10:07Z")
At least I can return to normalcy and stop rooting for Jeff Sessions. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7412 "2018-11-07T20:13:07Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > At least I can return to normalcy and stop rooting for Jeff Sessions. Don’t worry, the Senate seat held by Doug Jones, which was Sessions before he became AG, is up for election in 2020. He’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7413 "2018-11-07T20:14:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > According to Sessions’s resignation letter, he was resigning at Trump’s request. Isn’t that being fired? Because I think that matters with regard to replacing him. Also the “resignation” letter wasn’t dated. I’m sure it’s been held over his head for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7414 "2018-11-07T20:18:30Z")
Guess the elfin magic finally wore off. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7415 "2018-11-07T20:45:24Z")
Well… yeah as totally weird as it felt thinking of Jeff Sessions as somehow a protagonist in this story, this is anything but a return to normalcy. The guy now overseeing the investigation seems sympathetic to the Trump team. I have no idea what happens now. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7416 "2018-11-07T20:51:58Z")
> [@Moe](#): > > Well… yeah as totally weird as it felt thinking of Jeff Sessions as somehow a protagonist in this story, this is anything but a return to normalcy. The guy now overseeing the investigation seems sympathetic to the Trump team. I have no idea what happens now. I’ve been predicting Mueller will have a response to this. Let’s see if he does. Also need to see what Democrats do – although I’ve always been especially worried during this lame duck session(s), because they’re not technically in charge until noon on January 3rd. It’s going to be a very rough couple of months. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7417 "2018-11-07T20:53:32Z")
> [@Moe](#): > > Well… yeah as totally weird as it felt thinking of Jeff Sessions as somehow a protagonist in this story, this is anything but a return to normalcy. The guy now overseeing the investigation seems sympathetic to the Trump team. I have no idea what happens now. Mueller makes yet another off site back up of all the data. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7418 "2018-11-07T21:04:55Z")
I’m hearing that NBC is reporting that Rosenstein has been pulled off oversight of the Mueller probe. Bloomberg is supposedly reporting this too… will have cite when find it. Or not. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7419 "2018-11-07T21:12:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m hearing that NBC is reporting that Rosenstein has been pulled off oversight of the Mueller probe. Bloomberg is supposedly reporting this too… will have cite when find it. Or not. 🙂 I saw the same on Twitter. Sounds like the thinking is that Rosenstein was only overseeing the probe because Sessions recused himself. Assuming his successor has no reason to recuse himself, then there’s no need for Rosenstein to keep oversight. Sessions’s successor has written that the Mueller investigation has “gone too far”, so he’s probably already made up his mind to end it. It’s looking like I’m going to be at a protest tomorrow at noon. > **[Rapid-Response Events](https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/)** > > Join our Impeach & Remove Actions:Impeach.Org > > Nobody is above the law.  > Trump's hand-picked attorney general submitted a four-page "summary" of the Mueller report to Congress, which investigators on the Mueller team have said do not... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7420 "2018-11-07T21:13:56Z")
Cite: > “BREAKING: With an acting attorney general taking over after AG Sessions’ ouster, Deputy AG Rosenstein will no longer oversee the Mueller investigation, @PeteWilliams reports.” ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7421 "2018-11-07T21:16:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m hearing that NBC is reporting that Rosenstein has been pulled off oversight of the Mueller probe. Bloomberg is supposedly reporting this too… will have cite when find it. Or not. 🙂 I’m not super hopeful that the House Democrats, once they take office in 2019, can really do much beyond leak information. But that’s all for naught if no one in the Federal government cares to prosecute it and the Senate has no interest in ousting the President. This may all fall back to New York state and hoping that they’re building an air-tight case on something. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7422 "2018-11-07T21:18:32Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I saw the same on Twitter. Sounds like the thinking is that Rosenstein was only overseeing the probe because Sessions recused himself. Assuming his successor has no reason to recuse himself, then there’s no need for Rosenstein to keep oversight. Sessions’s successor has written that the Mueller investigation has “gone too far”, so he’s probably already made up his mind to end it. > > It’s looking like I’m going to be at a protest tomorrow at noon. > > [Rapid-Response Events | MoveOn.org](https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response-events/search/) Do something more useful with your time. Donate money to CREW or something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=370) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=372)