# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 377
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7523 "2018-11-12T22:26:52Z")
Also, per ABC News, Michael Cohen arrived in DC this morning accompanied by one of his criminal defense lawyers. He did not answer questions from reporters. > ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7524 "2018-11-12T22:31:08Z")
Oh, and according to CNN, at least eight of Mueller’s prosecutors are working today even though it’s a federal holiday. [https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1062081934430556160](https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1062081934430556160) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7525 "2018-11-12T22:32:44Z")
Fasten your seatbelts and get out the popcorn! ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7526 "2018-11-12T22:42:24Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Oh, and according to CNN, at least eight of Mueller’s prosecutors are working today even though it’s a federal holiday. [https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1062081934430556160](https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1062081934430556160) I would half-expect them to be working as close to around-the-clock as possible. Some say that with government jobs you can be assured that just punching in your 40 hours is enough, but sometimes you might want to work a little more just for the sake of your country. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7527 "2018-11-12T23:02:11Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > I would half-expect them to be working as close to around-the-clock as possible. Some say that with government jobs you can be assured that just punching in your 40 hours is enough, but sometimes you might want to work a little more just for the sake of your country. Plus they have a big presentation to do for Whitaker. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7528 "2018-11-12T23:21:28Z")
Quite a number of people have made statements that they were about to be indicted, starting from 6+ months ago at least, and they’re all still out and about in the world. I feel like there’s some sort of political motive to these statements, since I don’t think they’re based on any real knowledge. Maybe they’re just trying to get people to go to their GoFundMe’s. To be sure, they may well be indicted any day now. I just don’t think that there’s any reason to think that this particular statement is based on more than the one issued months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7529 "2018-11-13T00:03:01Z")
I’m still trying to figure out what the hell the foxnews Twitter silence for three days now is all about. It’s weird, but I have no hypothesis. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7530 "2018-11-13T00:08:22Z")
Caravan hasn’t made much progress. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7531 "2018-11-13T00:16:17Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m still trying to figure out what the hell the foxnews Twitter silence for three days now is all about. It’s weird, but I have no hypothesis. Perhaps they’ve been banned ala Alex Jones. I saw something about this a couple of days ago in the “Is Fox news really that bad?” thread. I assumed that it was short-lived. I really want _everything_ to come out soon, for good or bad. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7532 "2018-11-13T00:17:56Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Caravan hasn’t made much progress. Well they have to stop a lot to pray to Mecca, and treat the leprosy. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7533 "2018-11-13T00:29:41Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I’m still trying to figure out what the hell the foxnews Twitter silence for three days now is all about. It’s weird, but I have no hypothesis. Hypothesis I have heard: 1. FoxNews and other conservative sites are taking themselves off of SM platforms they think treats conservatives unfairly. 2. Murdoch, et al, are reevaluating Trump and their support with an eye on 2020 and are going as dark as they can. #1 sounds more plausible than CT-heavy #2, obviously, but why they haven’t promoted this if their intent is to make a point? So… who knows! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7534 "2018-11-13T01:27:40Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Well they have to stop a lot to pray to Mecca, and treat the leprosy. Not to mention give birth to terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7535 "2018-11-13T01:32:31Z")
Apparently, they’re protesting against Twitter by boycotting it. > **[Fox News Twitter Account Remains Dark for Fourth Day Over Tucker Carlson Protest](https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/fox-news-twitter-tucker-carlson-1203026225/)** > > Fox News continued its Twitter boycott for a fourth day on Monday in an apparent attempt to protest how the social media platform handled tweets surrounding a recent rally against Fox News host Tuc… \ I’m sure that Twitter is seeing a huge drop in their traffic and cares about this loss of a content provider deeply. \ ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7536 "2018-11-13T01:40:13Z")
Do they know that Twitter is the Orange Hollowkull’s favorite way to communicate? Is someone gonna tell him? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7537 "2018-11-13T02:00:05Z")
Not a very solid statement but @PaulaReidCBS just tweeted > [@](#): > > JUST IN: DOJ says Acting Attorney General Whitaker will consult with senior ethics officials at DOJ about possible recusal in Special Counsel investigation. DOJ Spox Kerri Kupec says, ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7538 "2018-11-13T02:10:24Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Hypothesis I have heard: > > 1. FoxNews and other conservative sites are taking themselves off of SM platforms they think treats conservatives unfairly. > 2. Murdoch, et al, are reevaluating Trump and their support with an eye on 2020 and are going as dark as they can. > > #1 sounds more plausible than CT-heavy #2, obviously, but why they haven’t promoted this if their intent is to make a point? > > So… who knows! I know #1 is the prevailing hypothesis, but as you note, if they were doing this, I would think they would advertise (grandstand) it, and not just walk away quietly. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7539 "2018-11-13T02:33:07Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Not a very solid statement but @PaulaReidCBS just tweeted I think it would be hilarious if Whitaker recuses himself - the twitter tirade would be worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7540 "2018-11-13T02:39:16Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I think it would be hilarious if Whitaker recuses himself - the twitter tirade would be worth it. I was just thinking this, and hoping that the prospect (now public!) at least drives Trump to do or say something to/about Whitaker to make him wonder whether it’s worth it to support this man. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7541 "2018-11-13T02:56:28Z")
The Mueller investigation will continue. Whitaker can’t stop it. There’s simply too bright a spotlight on it. The question for me is what he’ll do to the rest of the DOJ. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7542 "2018-11-13T05:06:59Z")
Strictly speaking, this is not the Mueller investigation but the Russian Federation has [responded](https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.492363/gov.uscourts.nysd.492363.186.0.pdf) to the DNC lawsuit against them for hacking. Their defense - if the DNC was hacked, it was the Russian military and thus exempt from prosecution because of sovereign immunity. Ao, this seems to be “this was not a crime, it was a military attack and courts have no jurisdiction”. So, if the Russian military attacked us and Americans help - what is that called? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=376) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=378)