# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 388
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7743 "2018-11-28T02:02:52Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > [We already know](https://www.wsj.com/articles/roger-stone-sought-information-on-clinton-from-assange-emails-show-1527191428?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1) that Roger Stone was talking with Assange about getting dirt on Hillary. > > And we know that Stone was openly bragging about his contacts with Guccifer 2.0, who did the hacking. > > And we know that Guccifer & the hackers were connected to the GRU. > > And we know that Manafort was also connected to the Russians and was an associate of Roger Stone. > The difference between all this and Christopher Steele is that Steele wasn’t the pimp for Trump’s prostitute pee pals. They thought it was just politics, and they never thought there would be an investigation. “Tee hee hee, we fucking stole an election…but we’re not actually criminals or anything.” ---
**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7744 "2018-11-28T02:11:56Z")
Does anyone else remember when Giuliani boasted that there was some big info on Hillary that was about to be released? Then a coupe of days later the emails came out. Was that ever followed up? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7745 "2018-11-28T02:40:07Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > Does anyone else remember when Giuliani boasted that there was some big info on Hillary that was about to be released? Then a coupe of days later the emails came out. Was that ever followed up? I’m pretty sure Rudy actually had heads up from the NY FBI office about the Anthony Weiner laptop. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7746 "2018-11-28T02:48:10Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > Does anyone else remember when Giuliani … Hey, speaking of that guy- is he still Trump’s attorney? Did he vanish or something? For a while he was everywhere, opening his eyes wide suddenly during interviews, now I don’t see him so much. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7747 "2018-11-28T03:15:37Z")
Also, just to elaborate - Assange, Manafort, & Wikileaks may all deny that Manafort never met Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy, but one of the sources on which the Guardian is relying is Ecuador’s intelligence agency, Senain. > **[Manafort held secret talks with Assange in Ecuadorian embassy, sources say](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/27/manafort-held-secret-talks-with-assange-in-ecuadorian-embassy)** > > Trump ally met WikiLeaks founder months before emails hacked by Russia were published, sources say > [@Gaurdian article](#): > > A separate internal document written by Ecuador’s Senain intelligence agency and seen by the Guardian lists “Paul Manaford [sic]” as one of several well-known guests. It also mentions “Russians”. Apparently, someone in Ecuador is finally tired of Assange’s brand. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7748 "2018-11-28T03:43:29Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > Does anyone else remember when Giuliani boasted that there was some big info on Hillary that was about to be released? Then a coupe of days later the emails came out. Was that ever followed up? Speaking of which, where is Rudy? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7749 "2018-11-28T03:48:58Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Speaking of which, where is Rudy? Presumably, doing something more important than running PR interference. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7750 "2018-11-28T04:03:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Speaking of which, where is Rudy? Giuliani was in the news tonight: Giuliani Says Now Is Not the Time for a Manafort Pardon [https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-paul-manafort-pardon-attorney/2018/11/27/id/892224/](https://www.newsmax.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-paul-manafort-pardon-attorney/2018/11/27/id/892224/) Apparently, Rudy also is the source that said the Manafort’s lawyers were conferring with Trump’s after the Manafort’s plea deal. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7751 "2018-11-28T04:05:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Speaking of which, where is Rudy? At least one thing he’s been doing has been being the Trump lawyer part of [Manafort attorney relayed info about Mueller probe to Trump lawyers](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/418600-manaforts-attorney-relayed-info-about-mueller-investigation-to-trump). I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure some of these folks are on their way to getting disbarred at a minimum if they haven’t opened themselves up to criminal charges. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7752 "2018-11-28T04:10:11Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Giuliani was in the news tonight: Also: Trump suggests he has inside information on the Russia probe, hours after Mueller said former campaign chief Manafort violated plea deal > **[What Paul Manafort's highly unusual move to brief Trump's team on his...](https://www.businessinsider.com/manafort-lawyers-still-in-touch-with-trump-team-cooperation-mueller-russia-2018-11)** > > By staying in touch with Trump's team while cooperating, Manafort may be trying to keep his options open, including a potential presidential pardon. > [@](#): > > Trump’s lead defense lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, told CNN on Tuesday that Manafort’s lawyers had been in touch with him about their interactions with Mueller and said they were running into issues with the special counsel. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7753 "2018-11-28T04:15:00Z")
> [@Steve\_McQwark](#): > > You gotta have some big brass bulls to make a joke like that. We should really put this out to pasture, I think we’ve milked it for all it is worth. Other recent news has confirmed that embassies tend to have cameras in or around them so when a person (or 15 persons and a bone saw) think they are getting away with something sneaky by hiding under diplomatic cover they end up finding out that there’s still a record of their comings and goings. An investigator could also ask any of the staff who work there. Could you describe the American visitor? …He’s white… he’s old. Does he look like a bitch? Actually… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7754 "2018-11-28T06:56:23Z")
Vox offers analysis of a reportedly leaked document from the Mueller probe, and speculates on what it signifies > **[A leaked Mueller draft document provides a glimpse into the investigation’s...](https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/11/27/18115445/mueller-corsi-trump-russia-roger-stone)** > > Jerome Corsi leaked the document, which outlines a potential charge against him. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7755 "2018-11-28T07:16:37Z")
> [@Batano](#): > > Does anyone else remember when Giuliani boasted that there was some big info on Hillary that was about to be released? Then a coupe of days later the emails came out. Was that ever followed up? I know it was a typo; however, I do like the term _coup of days_ for the following reasons: [ul][li]day of reckoning[/li][li]day of comeuppance[/li][li]day of judgment[/li][li]day of doom[/li][li]day of truth[/ul][/li] Yeah, let’s have all of these at once and make it a real coup against the ignorant orange in the White House! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7756 "2018-11-28T14:08:38Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > once manafort got convicted on those 8 counts, that pretty much should have been the writing on the wall for trump. It says **MAGA MAGA TEKEL UPHARSIN** ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7757 "2018-11-28T14:19:15Z")
Grandpa is being extra ranty on twitter again, going so far as to call for jailing his own deputy attorney general, and many others that appear to be linked as people he doesn’t like, for treason. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7758 "2018-11-28T15:24:53Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > It says **MAGA MAGA TEKEL UPHARSIN** \ > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Grandpa is being extra ranty on twitter again, going so far as to call for jailing his own deputy attorney general, and many others that appear to be linked as people he doesn’t like, for treason. Well, that’s one way to get them off his lawn. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7759 "2018-11-28T15:42:45Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > It says **MAGA MAGA TEKEL UPHARSIN** Win. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7760 "2018-11-28T15:47:29Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > It says **MAGA MAGA TEKEL UPHARSIN** Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7761 "2018-11-28T17:47:19Z")
“President Trump said Tuesday that Paul Manafort and Julian Assange did indeed meet on occasion to discuss how collusion was a bad thing they would “never, ever” do.” > **[Trump Insists Manafort, Assange Only Discussed How Bad Collusion Is](https://www.theonion.com/trump-insists-manafort-assange-only-discussed-how-bad-1830693199)** > > WASHINGTON—Downplaying reports that his former campaign chairman may have collaborated with the controversial Wikileaks founder in 2016, President Trump said Tuesday that Paul Manafort and Julian Assange did indeed meet on occasion to discuss how... ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7762 "2018-11-28T17:53:22Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > “President Trump said Tuesday that Paul Manafort and Julian Assange did indeed meet on occasion to discuss how collusion was a bad thing they would “never, ever” do.” > > [https://politics.theonion.com/trump-insists-manafort-assange-only-discussed-how-bad-1830693199](https://politics.theonion.com/trump-insists-manafort-assange-only-discussed-how-bad-1830693199) That’s horribly-written satire. The president’s quotes are too coherent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=387) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=389)