# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7923 "2018-11-30T22:12:05Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [DB Managing Board](https://www.db.com/company/en/management-board.htm).

Their CEO is named “Christian Sewing”.

_“Ya, here ist brochure from a Amedikan Bible Camp. I vill select alias from pages of Very Ordinary U.S. Languaging!”_

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7924 "2018-11-30T22:13:02Z")

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Putin and MBS are so excited to see each other at the G20 Summit. The miserable asshole in the background must be so sad that he hasn’t killed a journalist or threatened to invade a country lately.

> **[Watch Russian President Vladimir Putin and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin...](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/watch-putin-and-saudi-crown-prince-mbs-exuberant-handshake-at-g-20.html)**
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> Two of President Donald Trump's favorite strongmen — Russian President Vladimir Putin and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman — warmly shook hands with one another, smiled broadly and laughed when they were seated together at the G-20 economic...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7925 "2018-11-30T22:15:07Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Their CEO is named “Christian Sewing”.
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> _“Ya, here ist brochure from a Amedikan Bible Camp. I vill select alias from pages of Very Ordinary U.S. Languaging!”_

HA! One of my favorite “bands” is a guy who records under the name [Christian Fitness](https://christianfitness.bandcamp.com)!

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7926 "2018-11-30T22:16:36Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> his marriage is now peppered with unexplained sudden sighs, barks of laughter

I’ve been getting these from my wife for years.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7927 "2018-11-30T22:18:49Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Putin and MBS are so excited to see each other at the G20 Summit.

I saw a comment that they were congratulating each other on their joint ownership of an American President.😃

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7928 "2018-11-30T22:36:01Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I saw a comment that they were congratulating each other on their joint ownership of an American President.😃

From David Corn on Twitter:

“And then I got Trump to say I was a great guy.”  
“Hey, I also got Trump to say I was a great guy.”  
“Well, then we must both be great guys!”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7929 "2018-11-30T23:57:24Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> What I don’t understand is why anybody would work for Donny Two-scoops in the first place. He demands total fealty – to the point of compromising any principles you might have – and offers nothing in return. Hell, you’ll be the first he throws under the bus at the first sign of trouble.
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> The money (or prestige if it’s a government post) can’t be _that_ good.

The money probably looks pretty good if you’re a third-rater and have few or no other prospects.

AKA “only the best people.”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7930 "2018-12-01T00:01:19Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I read/heard so much crap yesterday about how the tanking Manafort situation was bad for Mueller, blah blah blah. All I could think was “Do you really think Mueller didn’t know Manafort was singing like a canary? Do you really think he didn’t have a plan for it? And a back up plan? And a back up to the back up?”  
> …

There is a theory that Mueller was aware that Manafort was attempting to be a double agent (by having his lawyers run to the WH to disclose all they were learning while in contact with the Mueller team). And that Mueller used that to feed the Trump people fake information.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7931 "2018-12-01T00:32:19Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wonder if Eric ever goes fishing? Like, in a rowboat. On a lake.

I thought Don Jr. was Fredo?

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7932 "2018-12-01T01:53:29Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Your observation on how inept team Trump is on everything that they do finally clicked to me:
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> They’re bad guys in a Dave Barry book. Mixed in with horrible taste in all things. Like if Mr Magoo and Inspector Cleuseau had an orgy on bath salts and Tide pods.

I am thinking specifically now of the movie Big Trouble. I’m picturing Dennis Farina and the other guy, stuck in the worst Florida hell of listening to local sports radio, listening to people call up the trolling DJs and saying “You say you never hear from us when they lose, but I’m calling you now!” over and over. Those callers are Trump voters. Oblivious and fervent.

And we here are Janine Garafolo, the one sane entity in the whole damn mess.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7933 "2018-12-01T02:19:04Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/uzihn2msbKg/hqdefault.jpg "Grosso Goal- Italian Announcer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzihn2msbKg)

Mueller, Mueller, Mueller! GOOOOAAAALLL! GOOAAAALLLL!!! GOAAALLL!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7934 "2018-12-01T03:46:16Z")

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Imagine Mueller telling a joke. Go ahead, try.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7935 "2018-12-01T04:04:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Imagine Mueller telling a joke. Go ahead, try.

Really? I honestly don’t have any trouble visualizing that. I’ll bet it would be understated, sly… and funny as hell. 😃

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7936 "2018-12-01T04:25:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Imagine Mueller telling a joke. Go ahead, try.

An old favorite:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/2rLgwBF.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/2rLgwBF.jpg)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7937 "2018-12-01T04:47:33Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Imagine Mueller telling a joke. Go ahead, try.

If you look at this [picture](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/experts-agree-robert-mueller-just-played-donald-trump-like-a-fiddle/), it’s easy to imagine.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7938 "2018-12-01T04:58:47Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> I just saw this helpful reminder on Twitter, courtesy of a law professor and former federal prosecutor:
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> “The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act prohibits corruptly offering a thing of value to a foreign official in order to try to obtain business.”  
> [https://twitter.com/RDEliason/status/1068298946618032128?s=19](https://twitter.com/RDEliason/status/1068298946618032128?s=19)
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> That is, if you bribe a foreign official, even if the business deal is overseas, you’ve committed a federal crime. Whoopsie!

Huh. By sheer coincidence, Rod Rosenstein gave a speech yesterday on why the FCPA is an important law.

[https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/good-timing-rod](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/good-timing-rod)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7939 "2018-12-01T05:59:15Z")

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This literally just happened tonight:

“BREAKING / NBC NEWS: Michael Cohen’s attorneys have told a judge tonight that their client is cooperating in an ongoing federal investigation in New York and **he has met with the New York AG’s office about their suit against the Trump Foundation and the President**.”

> <https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1068737089020268544?s=19>

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7940 "2018-12-01T06:14:16Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> This literally just happened tonight:
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> “BREAKING / NBC NEWS: Michael Cohen’s attorneys have told a judge tonight that their client is cooperating in an ongoing federal investigation in New York and **he has met with the New York AG’s office about their suit against the Trump Foundation and the President**.”
> 
> [https://twitter.com/Tom\_Winter/status/1068737089020268544?s=19](https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1068737089020268544?s=19)

I can’t stop smiling. Knew it was all coming, just didn’t think the holiday gifts would be so abundant or so timely!! Barbara Underwood is a goddess.

I hate to rejoice at someone else’s misfortune, but the damage the Trump operation has done to this country… we’ll be rehabbing for years and may never again regain our standing in the world. We’ve paid a terrible price for Trump. Time for him to learn the meaning of payback. I hope he lives long enough to grasp the full impact of his downfall.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7941 "2018-12-01T08:04:35Z")

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Wow! That hasn’t hit the AP yet! Awesome!

In a related development, I started a thread in IMHO asking [Does Michael Cohen deserve to go to prison?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=866451)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/7942 "2018-12-01T08:13:37Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I am thinking specifically now of the movie Big Trouble. I’m picturing Dennis Farina and the other guy, stuck in the worst Florida hell of listening to local sports radio, listening to people call up the trolling DJs and saying “You say you never hear from us when they lose, but I’m calling you now!” over and over. Those callers are Trump voters. Oblivious and fervent.
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> And we here are Janine Garafolo, the one sane entity in the whole damn mess.

I was thinking more Tom Sizemore and Johnny Knoxville than Dennis Farina, with Stanley Tucci as Trump.

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