# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8563 "2018-12-23T00:31:48Z")

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I checked through what all properties Trump owns, and [I think](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2018/12/22/trump-flight-destinations/) we’ll know when he’s ready to make a run for it by when he makes a sudden announcement that he’s going to visit Erdogan.

If anyone sees any news articles along those lines, post it, and start writing your congressmen.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8564 "2018-12-23T02:51:24Z")

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What 2018 looked like for the Mueller investigation:

> **[What 2018 looked like for the Mueller investigation](https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/politics/mueller-investigation-year-in-review/index.html)**
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> Special counsel Robert Mueller had a busy year. His investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election ramped up on multiple fronts, with subpoenas, indictments and guilty pleas. Here’s a look back at the key developments from 2018.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8565 "2018-12-23T13:41:06Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Dragged or hanged?

_Both_, of course. Dragged out by the ear to the gallows.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8566 "2018-12-25T00:33:36Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> That’s so creepy. Should only bring it out on Halloween.

It’s a palantir. They are communicating with Sauron.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8567 "2018-12-25T00:34:36Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> _Both_, of course. Dragged out by the ear to the gallows.

Hell yeah.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8568 "2018-12-26T06:29:07Z")

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Now here’s an interesting and mysterious tidbit: “New secret filing in case of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen placed in NY federal court vault”

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> What’s in the vault?
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> Someone on Wednesday filed a document saying something in connection with a criminal case against President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.
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> **But who filed it and what it says is a mystery.**
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> The document, which is sealed from public view, was “placed in vault” at U.S. District Court in Manhatten, according to a docket entry.  
> …  
> **The sealed document was filed in a case brought against Cohen by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York.**

Right, so why would the federal prosecutors, if it was them, need to file away a sealed document with the Court? Cohen’s pled, he’s been sentenced. What reason could there be for this document being placed in a secure place, under seal, and in the custody of the court?

Just spitballin’ here, but it couldn’t possibly have something to do with the mysterious “Individual-1”, could it?

Like, you know, maybe with a notation on it saying that the document is to be brought out of the vault and given to a Federal judge, say, on the day after the mysterious “Individual-1” ceases to hold federal office?

It couldn’t be that, could it?

> **[New secret filing in case of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen placed in NY...](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/19/-filing-in-case-of-former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen.html?recirc=taboolainternal)**
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> The mysterious document comes a week after President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison for charges that include ones related to hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model...

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8569 "2018-12-26T12:54:43Z")

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I’m having a sudden flash where Donny Two-scoops figures out he’s Individual-1, thinks, _Naturally; I’m the most important person in the world, aren’t I?_ and gets himself one of those foam fingers for future photo-ops.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8570 "2018-12-26T17:28:27Z")

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Has to be changed, doesn’t it? As it stands, it _could_ be read “Individual _minus_ one”. Gotta be “Individual + 1”.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8571 "2018-12-26T21:13:59Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Has to be changed, doesn’t it? As it stands, it _could_ be read “Individual _minus_ one”. Gotta be “Individual + 1”.

I’m pretty sure Melania would do her best to get out of that invitation.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8572 "2018-12-27T17:12:41Z")

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Pro-Tip: When criming, leave the cell phones at home!

[Cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting](https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html).

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> WASHINGTON  
> A mobile phone traced to President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen briefly sent signals ricocheting off cell towers in the Prague area in late summer 2016, at the height of the presidential campaign, leaving an electronic record to support claims that Cohen met secretly there with Russian officials, four people with knowledge of the matter say.
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> During the same period of late August or early September, electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a conversation among Russians, one of whom remarked that Cohen was in Prague, two people familiar with the incident said.
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> The phone and surveillance data, which have not previously been disclosed, lend new credence to a key part of a former British spy’s dossier of Kremlin intelligence describing purported coordination between Trump’s campaign and Russia’s election meddling operation.
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> The dossier, which Trump has dismissed as “a pile of garbage,” said Cohen and one or more Kremlin officials huddled in or around the Czech capital to plot ways to limit discovery of the close “liaison” between the Trump campaign and Russia.

To be clear, the article places the _phone_ near Prague, not Cohen himself.

It very well could be one of those times when an associate… even your wife… goes to another country and, after kissing them goodbye, watching as they are lining up at the TSA line, you toss your Samsung at them saying “Take my phone to Prague!”

Shit like that, telling people to take my phones to random cities I have repeatedly denied visiting, happens to me _all the damned time_.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8573 "2018-12-27T17:41:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Pro-Tip: When criming, leave the cell phones at home!
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> [Cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting](https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/article219016820.html).  
> \<snip\>

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreally.

Hmmm…

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8574 "2018-12-27T17:55:45Z")

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Now we’re making Prague-ress.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8575 "2018-12-27T18:11:25Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Now we’re making Prague-ress.

I’m not angry. I’m just disappointed. I want you to think about what you’ve done.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8576 "2018-12-27T18:15:55Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> I’m just disappointed…

Pleased to meet you, Just Disappointed! I’m Dad.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8577 "2018-12-27T18:16:44Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Now we’re making Prague-ress.

Very clever. 😃 How long have you been waiting to use this one?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8578 "2018-12-27T18:37:12Z")

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Hey, Czech that attitude.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8579 "2018-12-27T18:39:52Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Very clever. 😃 How long have you been waiting to use this one?

Wait’ll you see the three-level pun he’s got saved up for “Sergey Kislyak in Mordovia”…

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8580 "2018-12-27T19:08:40Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> … you toss your Samsung at them saying “Take my phone to Prague!”
> 
> _…_.

And yes there is something you can bring back for me  
Bring my phone that you took there with you

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8581 "2018-12-27T19:09:39Z")

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Don’t these morons watch TV? Moments like the Prague trip scream that you should use a burner phone.

Idjit moron. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8582 "2018-12-27T19:18:50Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Don’t these morons watch TV? Moments like the Prague trip scream that you should use a burner phone.
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> Idjit moron. :rolleyes:

^^This. Even I knew that Washington insiders need to carry burners. I learned that from _House Of Cards_.

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