# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 437
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8723 "2019-01-02T14:28:59Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I once operated a Susan powered death ray - for 20 minutes. Like a motherfuck? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8724 "2019-01-02T14:54:39Z")
Let’s keep our wits about us, people. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8725 "2019-01-02T15:07:52Z")
My wits just stepped out for some fresh air, but I expect them back any minute now. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8726 "2019-01-02T15:11:04Z")
Thought I was clicking on the Thread for Mueller updates, apparently I clicked the MMP. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8727 "2019-01-02T15:17:59Z")
Don’t blame us, blame Mueller. ---
**Author:** ![catflea12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@catflea12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catflea12)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8728 "2019-01-02T15:20:38Z")
No news for several days might mean someone’s in for a nasty surprise, and I know who I want it to be. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8729 "2019-01-02T15:51:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Let’s keep our wits about us, people. I’ve kept half of mine. That counts for _something._ ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8730 "2019-01-02T16:06:55Z")
[This](https://www.salon.com/2019/01/01/two-of-muellers-prime-targets-break-out-into-a-petty-feud-a-sign-they-may-be-ready-to-crack_partner/) is an interesting development. Oh, and I’m not Susan, either. I’m occasionally Molly, but never Susan. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8731 "2019-01-02T17:31:00Z")
Now the right wing/ Russian bots are flooding Facebook with posts stating that Bob Mueller prevented 9/11 victims from suing Saudi Arabia. [Typical news story from pseudo-news organization.](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/robert-mueller-was-the-biggest-obstacle-for-sept-11-families-who-wanted-to-sue-saudi-arabia) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8732 "2019-01-03T16:39:03Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Worrying. > > On the one hand, if the President is under the control of the Russian government, and she is any significant portion of the puzzle, then her value as a witness is unmatched by just about anything. > > But on the other hand, if that is the case, then the President and a number of congressman all want her gone and can pull all sorts of levers to get the trade done. Whelan’s Russian attorney is making noises about a prisoner exchange. The con is happening while we are watching. [https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1080855029857300480](https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1080855029857300480) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8733 "2019-01-03T19:25:35Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I wouldn’t necessarily connect the two. Ed is a powerful machine Democrat, so Trump or not, it’s somewhat unsurprising to me, as someone who lives in his ward, that his office eventually got raided by the Feds. There’s been rumors of corruption with him for a long time. Just an update, but so far, the raid of Alderman Burke’s office is, indeed, unrelated [See here](https://wgntv.com/2019/01/03/ald-ed-burke-charged-with-corruption/?fbclid=IwAR2n_nvFXkDw7NZsULsmftQDBqf1kqTcXZy3NP0R5ZDrbrxWhPf2ubFEucQ). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8734 "2019-01-03T19:30:15Z")
Oh! Breaking (local) news! I hadn’t heard that. Thanks for the link. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8735 "2019-01-03T21:33:37Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Hahahahah. Yeah. He represented Trumps property tax matters for 12 years? > > I’m surprised he’s still in the country. > > Hahahahah. > > Trumps stink sticks to everyone he encounters. Not only is Burke still in the country, today [he turned himself in to prosecutors](https://twitter.com/wendywidom/status/1080922261102739456). ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8736 "2019-01-03T21:36:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Not only is Burke still in the country, today [he turned himself in to prosecutors](https://twitter.com/wendywidom/status/1080922261102739456). That looks like a man who thinks he can beat the system. For all I know, he can. I guess we’ll see. Hopefully, if he can it will be because he knows something on Trump that he can offer up. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8737 "2019-01-03T22:04:21Z")
If Ed Burke can’t beat the system nobody can. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8738 "2019-01-03T23:14:11Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > If Ed Burke can’t beat the system nobody can. Pretty much. His time is finally up, though, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8739 "2019-01-03T23:19:12Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > That looks like a man who thinks he can beat the system. > > For all I know, he can. I guess we’ll see. Guys like that _are_ the system. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8740 "2019-01-04T00:00:56Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Whelan’s Russian attorney is making noises about a prisoner exchange. > > The con is happening while we are watching. > > [https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1080855029857300480](https://twitter.com/woodruffbets/status/1080855029857300480) No doubt they’re confident this will work, but I wonder. The mainstream media has been remarkably cautious about assumptions that this is a straightforward ‘innocent American victimized’ story. Maybe too many people suspect the thing is a set-up, for it to work. If only Trump’s 37% buy it, then it could blow up in their faces. Of course if Butina has been handed over and silenced, they may feel it was worth it. But we’re talking real conspiracy, here, maybe. If that’s proven, Trump will have trouble getting Congresspeople to cover for him. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8741 "2019-01-04T00:36:22Z")
For writing/language geeks, [here’s an article](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/robert-mueller-report-writing-style-special-counsel-documents.html) discussing Mueller’s writing style. There’s some interesting comparison of his style versus SDNY’s. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8742 "2019-01-04T02:46:19Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Guys like that _are_ the system. Oh, you’ve BEEN in Chicago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=436) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=438)