# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 449
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8963 "2019-01-14T20:12:28Z")
We could put the bag over the Russian translator and wire him up to the Tucker telephone until he spilled the beans. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8964 "2019-01-14T20:23:18Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Trump may be so stupid, but not Putin. Their conversation would have been reminiscing, speaking in generalities, and laying hints about mutual acquaintances who could be useful cut-outs. "Ah, Mr. Trump. Remember that time in Moscow at the Ritz-Carleton in 2013? That was a very interesting time, was it not? If you or even Mrs. Trump would like a little memento of the occasion, I’m quite sure that I could ask my colleagues in my records department to provide one. Now, about that situation in Ukraine… " ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8965 "2019-01-14T20:55:37Z")
“What, you mean that time I had those hookers pee on the bed? How old were they, anyway, 12? I thought you said that you’d never bring that up again, and that you’d destroyed the tapes.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8966 "2019-01-14T21:01:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > “What, you mean that time I had those hookers pee on the bed? How old were they, anyway, 12? I thought you said that you’d never bring that up again, and that you’d destroyed the tapes.” \ (uh oh. better get those notes) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8967 "2019-01-14T21:16:05Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > \ (uh oh. better get those notes) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8968 "2019-01-14T21:33:28Z")
Bob Barr, nominated to become Attorney General, pledges to allow Mueller to finish his investigation: [Trump's AG nominee pledges to allow Mueller to complete investigation - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/14/barr-mueller-investigation-1099069) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8969 "2019-01-14T22:05:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Bob Barr, nominated to become Attorney General, pledges to allow Mueller to finish his investigation: [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/14/barr-mueller-investigation-1099069](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/14/barr-mueller-investigation-1099069) Remind me again what Republican pledges are worth. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8970 "2019-01-14T23:41:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Remind me again what Republican pledges are worth. > **[Kavanaugh and Roberts join liberals to reject Planned Parenthood case](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-planned-parenthood-20181210-story.html)** > > The Supreme Court signaled Monday it is not anxious to revisit the abortion controversy in the year ahead, disappointing conservative activists who were cheered by the appointment of Justice Brett M. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8971 "2019-01-15T00:10:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Remind me again what Republican pledges are worth. They pledged that Merrick Garland’s nomination would not be voted on. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8972 "2019-01-15T00:33:32Z")
They pledged their souls to Satan. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8973 "2019-01-15T00:58:17Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > They pledged that Merrick Garland’s nomination would not be voted on. Well, there is that. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8974 "2019-01-15T01:29:03Z")
[Mueller Probes an Event With Nunes, Flynn, and Foreign Officials at Trump’s D.C. Hotel](https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probes-an-event-with-nunes-flynn-and-foreign-officials-at-trumps-dc-hotel) > [@](#): > > The Special Counsel’s Office and federal prosecutors in Manhattan are scrutinizing a meeting involving former House Intelligence Committee ChairmanDevin Nunes, one-time National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, and dozens of foreign officials, according to three sources familiar with the investigations. > > The breakfast event, which was firstreportedby The Daily Sabah, a pro-government Turkish paper, took place at 8:30 a.m. at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. on Jan. 18, 2017—days before President Donald Trump’s inauguration. About 60 people were invited, including diplomats from governments around the world, according to those same sources. > > … > > The breakfast has come under scrutiny by federal prosecutors in Manhattan as part of their probe into whether the Trump inaugural committeemisspent fundsand if donors tried to buy influence in the White House. The existence of that probe was first reported by theWall Street Journal. The Special Counsel’s Office is also looking at the breakfast as part of itsinvestigationinto whether foreignerscontributed moneyto the Trump inaugural fund and PAC by possibly using American intermediaries, as first reported byThe New York Times.Robert Mueller’s team has asked Flynn about the event, according to two sources familiar with the Special Counsel’s Office questioning. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8975 "2019-01-15T02:54:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [Mueller Probes an Event With Nunes, Flynn, and Foreign Officials at Trump’s D.C. Hotel](https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-probes-an-event-with-nunes-flynn-and-foreign-officials-at-trumps-dc-hotel) Bummer. I wonder who the leak was and what the purpose was. Some of these, I feel like the investigators leak anonymously just after getting a wiretap installed, figuring that the mark will call a compatriot to talk about what to do. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8976 "2019-01-15T05:15:37Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Remind me again what Republican pledges are worth. I may soon be proven wrong, and it’s quite possible he’s drunk the Trumpian Kool-Aide in the past few years, but Barr has a reputation - dating back to even before his stint as AG for GHWB - for being a decent, honest guy with an abiding respect for the rule of law. I, for one, hope he lives up to it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8977 "2019-01-15T05:20:00Z")
William Barr, President Trump’s attorney general pick, once warned of a lack of “political supervision” at the Justice Dept. that he said gave too much leeway to career prosecutors and made it “very easy for prosecutors to go hunting for scalps.” [https://t.co/0PAB19V4FV](https://t.co/0PAB19V4FV) Adam Schiff: Under Barr’s reading of the law, an obstruction case Mueller may be pursuing is “asinine.” He says results of Mueller’s report should be made public but nothing about its contents. And he has a view of presidential power that renders all of his promises moot. Senate must vote no [https://t.co/KegGd3cFSe](https://t.co/KegGd3cFSe) Schiff again: Bill Barr wrote a lengthy memo outlining his hostility to an investigation implicating the President, and then discussed it with him prior to his nomination for AG. Absent recusal, this should be utterly disqualifying. When Trump is gone, what will be left of the rule of law? > ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8978 "2019-01-15T07:09:42Z")
One of my friends is a Bernie bro who hates the Clintons. Every time I bring up Trump looking like he is a Russian asset, he massively rolls his eyes and dismisses me (along with Rachel Maddow, whom he calls “cuckoo”) as being the equivalent of Alex Jones or the people who said Vince Foster was murdered. This annoys the hell out of me, but I had thought it was just this one guy until another friend of mine says he knows several “far left Democrats” who talk the same way. Is this really a thing? Are these lefties so anti-Clinton (or maybe pro-Russia??) that they end up sounding like Trumpites on this topic? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8979 "2019-01-15T07:46:13Z")
It is absolutely a thing. There is a large contingent of Bernie Bros and Steinistas who are quite happy to see Trump in the White House. (Nevermind that whole kerfuffle about Russian troll farms [agitating for Jill Stein](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/421885-russian-disinformation-campaign-included-pro-jill-stein-sentiments) and her close relationship with RT. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8980 "2019-01-15T13:03:16Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > They pledged their souls to Satan. [Knights in white satin](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/20th-march-1922-members-of-the-white-supremacist-movement-the-ku-klux-picture-id3313395). ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8981 "2019-01-15T15:24:01Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > It is absolutely a thing. There is a large contingent of Bernie Bros and Steinistas who are quite happy to see Trump in the White House. (Nevermind that whole kerfuffle about Russian troll farms [agitating for Jill Stein](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/421885-russian-disinformation-campaign-included-pro-jill-stein-sentiments) and her close relationship with RT. Just a singular data point I know - A very good friend of mine is a Bernie supporter. Big time. Detests Trump like any rational person would. When I warned her that Trump could be a problem, and it may be best to through support behind Clinton, she insisted that SHE would still vote for Bernie, and that the WOMEN of the country won’t let us down and let Trump be elected. :smack: Oops on many levels. We don’t talk about it, as I’m not a “I told ya so” type of guy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/8982 "2019-01-15T16:05:52Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Just a singular data point I know - A very good friend of mine is a Bernie supporter. Big time. Detests Trump like any rational person would. When I warned her that Trump could be a problem, and it may be best to through support behind Clinton, she insisted that SHE would still vote for Bernie, and that the WOMEN of the country won’t let us down and let Trump be elected. > > :smack: > > Oops on many levels. We don’t talk about it, as I’m not a “I told ya so” type of guy. You should be. I blast Jill Stein voters all the time. Rub their noses in the shit they helped make. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=448) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=450)