# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9243 "2019-01-25T14:02:42Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Here is the [Roger Stone indictment](https://www.justice.gov/file/1124706/download).
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> Charges:
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> [ol]  
> [li]Obstruction - false testimony to the House intelligence committee [/li][li]False testimony[/li][li]False testimony[/li][li]False testimony[/li][li]False testimony[/li][li]False testimony[/li][li]Witness tampering - relating to attempts to persuade or intimidate “Person 2” (likely Randy Credico) to lie to investigators [/li][/ol]

Alas I guess being a fucking evil SOB isn’t technically illegal so they have to work around the edges.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9244 "2019-01-25T14:16:47Z")

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“_**On or about October 7, 2016, [WikiLeaks] released the first set of emails stolen from the Clinton Campaign chairman. Shortly after [WikiLeaks’] release, an associate of the high-ranking Trump Campaign official sent a text to STONE that read 'well done.'**_”

Reporters are tentatively identifying the “high ranking” campaign official as Steve Bannon

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9245 "2019-01-25T14:20:43Z")

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I’m beginning to think that Trump is the unluckiest guy ever when it comes to surrounding himself with bad people. #sad

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9246 "2019-01-25T14:21:28Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Reporters are tentatively identifying the “high ranking” campaign official as Steve Bannon

Is Bannon potentially still on the hook for anything?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9247 "2019-01-25T14:30:17Z")

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Just so the timing is clear, on October 7th, 2016 the Access Hollywood tape comes out. A few hours later, Wikileak dumps stolen email. Shortly after that, the Trump campaign texts “good job” to Roger Stone.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9248 "2019-01-25T14:30:28Z")

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Well, technically he is “on the hook” for any crimes which he may have committed.

But for right now, he is unindicted.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9249 "2019-01-25T15:11:24Z")

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When I glanced at MSNBC a bit ago the bottom of the screen read “NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP” and “NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WHITE HOUSE”. Gave me the impression that the response was cocked and ready to release at a moment’s notice.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9250 "2019-01-25T15:43:09Z")

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Those were quotes from Sarah Sanders this morning. And it’s their answer to everything, so it doesn’t necessarily indicate much foresight.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9251 "2019-01-25T15:45:44Z")

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Well, “nothing to do with WH” is more than a slight shift from “nothing to do with the campaign”.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9252 "2019-01-25T15:54:10Z")

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Sarah isn’t looking that good this morning. I think things are getting a bit stressed in the bunker. Sooner or later that “Nothing to do with T\*\*\*p” line is going to look really silly when it’s Kushner or Don Jr. getting indicted.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9253 "2019-01-25T16:02:34Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Sarah isn’t looking that good this morning. I think things are getting a bit stressed in the bunker. Sooner or later that “Nothing to do with T\*\*\*p” line is going to look really silly when it’s Kushner or Don Jr. getting indicted.

She’s apparently willing to go down with the ship, though.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9254 "2019-01-25T16:07:49Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Sarah isn’t looking that good this morning. I think things are getting a bit stressed in the bunker. Sooner or later that “Nothing to do with T\*\*\*p” line is going to look really silly when it’s **Kushner or Don Jr. getting indicted.**

Trump : “Who? Don’t know 'em”

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9255 "2019-01-25T16:52:16Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> I’m beginning to think that Trump is the unluckiest guy ever when it comes to surrounding himself with bad people. #sad

Yeah, seems like the hiring protocol of “crony of mine/family member/looks the part” is rather…unsound.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9256 "2019-01-25T16:53:10Z")

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“Guy with Nixon tattoo is arrested for helping reality star conspire with dude who lives in exile in a foreign embassy. The arrest was witnessed by his neighbor, an athlete who legally changed his name to his jersey number. Is this more of a Coen Bros movie or Wes Anderson?”

> <https://twitter.com/BaklavaFairy/status/1088806561554857984>

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9257 "2019-01-25T16:55:14Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> When I glanced at MSNBC a bit ago the bottom of the screen read “NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP” and “NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WHITE HOUSE”. Gave me the impression that the response was cocked and ready to release at a moment’s notice.

At this point they should consider painting the White House a muddy gray, to better symbolize the ethical stance of its occupant.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9258 "2019-01-25T17:20:24Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Posted in Clusterfuck thread: Roger Stone is arrested! Home raided by FBI!
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/roger-stone-arrested/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/roger-stone-arrested/index.html)

> [@](#):
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> Former New Jersey Attorney General Anne Milgram told CNN “there’s a reason” why the FBI arrested former Trump campaign adviser Roger Stone “at the crack of dawn with agents fully armed,” even if the reason for that is unknown as of now.
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> The arrest of Stone, which involved about a dozen agents wearing bullet-proof vests and tactical gear, occurred shortly after 6 a.m. ET at his home in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and was captured live on CNN.  
> …  
> [Source](https://thehill.com/homenews/media/426977-former-ag-theres-a-reason-fbi-arrested-stone-fully-armed-but-not-clear-yet)

I’m fantasizing about this scene playing out in the Oval Office…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9259 "2019-01-25T17:27:55Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> I’m beginning to think that Trump is the unluckiest guy ever when it comes to surrounding himself with bad people. #sad

Birds of a feather…

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9260 "2019-01-25T17:31:38Z")

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The FBI agents who arrested Stone were all unpaid.

“We get to arrest one of the guys who stole the election, which lead to us being indentured servants? Boss, I think I’m feeling fine today - I’ll be there!”

Oh, cite: [https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1088775904992595969](https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1088775904992595969)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9261 "2019-01-25T17:44:13Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The FBI agents who arrested Stone were all unpaid.
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> “We get to arrest one of the guys who stole the election, which lead to us being indentured servants? Boss, I think I’m feeling fine today - I’ll be there!”
> 
> Oh, cite: [https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1088775904992595969](https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1088775904992595969)

Ha!

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9262 "2019-01-25T19:19:30Z")

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> [@head witch](#):
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> Greatest Witch Hunt in the History of our Country! NO COLLUSION! Border Coyotes, Drug Dealers and Human Traffickers are treated better. Who alerted CNN to be there?

Only the best witch hunt! More witches found than any time in the history of witches!

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