# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9323 "2019-01-28T16:10:42Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Treason in defense of nationalism is no vice. Patriotism in pursuit of tribalism is no virtue.  
> -Republican Party.

> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Also works the other way round: “Treason in defense of tribalism is no vice” …

Nationalism, patriotism and tribalism are concepts that are too esoteric for Individual-1.

“Treason in defense of my money is no vice.” - Individual-1

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9324 "2019-01-28T18:16:40Z")

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[A musical interlude to keep us entertained while we wait for the next headline.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihvgfU_g7LI)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9325 "2019-01-28T22:00:30Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Nationalism, patriotism and tribalism are concepts that are too esoteric for Individual-1.
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> “Treason in defense of my money is no vice.” - Individual-1

_Individual 1: Vice? Great show. Many, many people really love it. Cops, criminals. Good guys on both sides. And they have great plans, really great plans. I’d like to try those plans._  
I just spent a moment checking the S&P of my hypothetical (and quite possible) Trump comment, then I realized S&P don’t matter for quoting him. He probably thinks they’re green stamps, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9326 "2019-01-28T22:24:20Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [A musical interlude to keep us entertained while we wait for the next headline.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihvgfU_g7LI)

O. M. G.

That was insanely good

😃

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9327 "2019-01-28T22:28:08Z")

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> Acting attorney general Matthew G. Whitaker said Monday that he has been “fully briefed” on special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election and that, “right now, the investigation is close to being completed.”

]([https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/01/28/mueller-investigation-is-close-to-being-completed-acting-attorney-general-says/?utm\_term=.6dd6cd242319](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/01/28/mueller-investigation-is-close-to-being-completed-acting-attorney-general-says/?utm_term=.6dd6cd242319))  
That’s pretty well the whole article, as of now. Washington Post, for those who can’t mouseover.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9328 "2019-01-29T03:36:54Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [A musical interlude to keep us entertained while we wait for the next headline.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihvgfU_g7LI)

> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> O. M. G.
> 
> That was insanely good
> 
> 😃

That is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.

I’d propose marriage, but I don’t think I’m his type. Or his age range. Alas.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9329 "2019-01-29T05:35:26Z")

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Paul Manafort’s Feb. 8 sentencing has been [delayed](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/28/paul-manafort-sentencing-canceled-1132068) pending the resolution of Mueller’s accusations regarding Manafort lying during his cooperation with the grand jury.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9330 "2019-01-29T12:57:42Z")

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[Hey, guess who Roger Stone drew as the judge for his trial?](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/judge-amy-berman-jackson-roger-stone-paul-manafort/index.html)

One can only imagine the amount of profanity uttered when he and his lawyers got that bit of news.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9331 "2019-01-29T13:00:15Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Hey, guess who Roger Stone drew as the judge for his trial?](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/judge-amy-berman-jackson-roger-stone-paul-manafort/index.html)
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> One can only imagine the amount of profanity uttered when he and his lawyers got that bit of news.

How would Corey Lewandoski put it? Oh right. “Womp womp.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9332 "2019-01-29T17:49:02Z")

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It’s a beautiful thing.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9333 "2019-01-29T19:20:37Z")

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So… Paul Manafort. In prison.

Think he’s automatically included in the Aryan Brotherhood? What about other Trump associates… think they get admission, or at least protection?

(These are the sort of questions which come to me out of the blue…)

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9334 "2019-01-29T19:30:00Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So… Paul Manafort. In prison.
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> Think he’s automatically included in the Aryan Brotherhood? What about other Trump associates… think they get admission, or at least protection?

I don’t think they’d let him join them without a ton of ink-work and an initiation shivving.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9335 "2019-01-29T19:40:27Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So… Paul Manafort. In prison.
> 
> Think he’s automatically included in the Aryan Brotherhood? What about other Trump associates… think they get admission, or at least protection?
> 
> (These are the sort of questions which come to me out of the blue…)

> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> I don’t think they’d let him join them without a ton of ink-work and an initiation shivving.

Prison is already being tough on him. He can’t get his hair dyed anymore, and he looks like an old man. That’s just terrible for a man whose public image is so much a part of his self image.

\<snickers\>

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9336 "2019-01-29T20:02:34Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So… Paul Manafort. In prison.
> 
> Think he’s automatically included in the Aryan Brotherhood? What about other Trump associates… think they get admission, or at least protection?
> 
> (These are the sort of questions which come to me out of the blue…)

He’ll either be protected or murdered by Russian mafia, I would expect.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9337 "2019-01-29T21:59:12Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Prison is already being tough on him. He can’t get his hair dyed anymore, and he looks like an old man. That’s just terrible for a man whose public image is so much a part of his self image.
> 
> \<snickers\>

Would Roger Stone get to keep wearing his Artsy-Fartsy round glasses? He’d look so boring in $20 frames from the LensCrafters in the prison.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9338 "2019-01-29T22:07:02Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Would Roger Stone get to keep wearing his Artsy-Fartsy round glasses? He’d look so boring in $20 frames from the LensCrafters in the prison.

Will he still be able to wear his makeup?

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9339 "2019-01-29T23:06:43Z")

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Fortunately, iDJiT won’t face that dilemma, assuming there are bags of fried snacks available in the prison commissary.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9340 "2019-01-29T23:33:51Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Hey, guess who Roger Stone drew as the judge for his trial?](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/judge-amy-berman-jackson-roger-stone-paul-manafort/index.html)
> 
> One can only imagine the amount of profanity uttered when he and his lawyers got that bit of news.

"Mr. Stone…? Dance. And That’s my rulin’ . "

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A_sY2rjxq6M/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHeAoAChgKKAgwIABABGGUgRCg_MA8=&rs=AOn4CLBRnD89sXfZKi-9orKrBBjR1IN2rQ "The Trammps - Disco Inferno") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9341 "2019-01-30T13:47:39Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Would Roger Stone get to keep wearing his Artsy-Fartsy round glasses? He’d look so boring in $20 frames from the LensCrafters in the prison.

If we’re lucky, he’ll get issued [Birth Control Glasses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GI_glasses).

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9342 "2019-01-30T14:24:53Z")

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Donald will start to worry when Stone gets Bob Mueller’s face tattooed on his back.

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