# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9343 "2019-01-30T14:24:57Z")

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While the Aryan Brotherhood will give a cold-blooded professional like Manafort respect, they might balk at accepting Roger Stone.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9344 "2019-01-30T20:05:54Z")

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Well, sure. Even racist scumbags have _some_ standards.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9345 "2019-01-30T20:22:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> While the Aryan Brotherhood will give a cold-blooded professional like Manafort respect, they might balk at accepting Roger Stone.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Well, sure. Even racist scumbags have _some_ standards.

Plus having to stare at Nixon’s face is bound to cause some…wilting.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9346 "2019-01-30T20:31:19Z")

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::hm, getting some tempting ideas, now, for some Stephen Miller or Sebastian Gorka ink::

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9347 "2019-01-30T20:57:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Plus having to stare at Nixon’s face is bound to cause some…wilting.

I wonder if he had this planned all along; did he get the tattoo just in case he went to prison?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9348 "2019-01-31T19:43:30Z")

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[Just posted](https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1091017929808924672) by Natasha Bertrand (reporter for The Atlantic & MSNBC):

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> JUST IN: According to Mueller and DC USA, discovery in the Roger Stone case is “both voluminous and complex,” and “is composed of multiple hard drives containing several terabytes of information”—including bank records & comms taken from iCloud/email accounts, electronic devices.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9349 "2019-01-31T20:44:31Z")

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My God, he found Jimmy Hoffa!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9350 "2019-02-04T17:00:27Z")

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If anyone could find Jimmy Hoffa, I bet it’s Robert Mueller.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9351 "2019-02-04T18:21:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> If anyone could find Jimmy Hoffa, I bet it’s Robert Mueller.

I mean, given that the investigation has intersected with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Panama Papers, 1MDB, Cambridge Analytica/Brexit, WikiLeaks, Deutsche Bank money laundering, etc. if the dead body of Jimmy Hoffa somehow came in linked to Trump and/or his friends, it wouldn’t even raise my eyebrow.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9352 "2019-02-04T19:19:21Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I mean, given that the investigation has intersected with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Panama Papers, 1MDB, Cambridge Analytica/Brexit, WikiLeaks, Deutsche Bank money laundering, etc. if the dead body of Jimmy Hoffa somehow came in linked to Trump and/or his friends, it wouldn’t even raise my eyebrow.

Hell, I’m expecting it. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9353 "2019-02-04T19:26:39Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Hell, I’m expecting it. :rolleyes:

🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9354 "2019-02-04T19:31:55Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yep. Some have gone so far to say that Russia saved us from Hillary. Morons.

You mean, Traitors.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9355 "2019-02-04T19:33:21Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Here is one such трубач](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/republican-voter-trump-putin-russia-election-meddling-a8450531.html).

A lousy, stinking traitor.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9356 "2019-02-04T19:36:24Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I just had a brainstorm: I’ll vote for the first Democrat presidential candidate who promises to appoint Robert Mueller as Chief Of Staff.
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> Or Veep…

Or Attorney General … or any position that turns him LOOSE and allows him to squash ALL interference.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9357 "2019-02-04T19:40:21Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [URL=“[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/01/28/mueller-investigation-is-close-to-being-completed-acting-attorney-general-says/?utm\_term=.6dd6cd242319](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/01/28/mueller-investigation-is-close-to-being-completed-acting-attorney-general-says/?utm_term=.6dd6cd242319)”]  
> That’s pretty well the whole article, as of now. Washington Post, for those who can’t mouseover.

I would love it, if Whitaker got arrested too.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9358 "2019-02-04T19:45:47Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> [Just posted](https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1091017929808924672) by Natasha Bertrand (reporter for The Atlantic & MSNBC):

Mmmmmm. Terabytes. Bank records/data. Copies of files. Goooooooood.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9359 "2019-02-04T20:13:42Z")

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“Terabytes” doesn’t really mean much. The most incriminating evidence is going to be in documents that are basically text, and by filesize, the percentage of those “terabytes” that are anything like text is going to be 0%. If the hard drives have that much data on them, then most of it is probably video, or _maybe_ audio or still pictures. Unless they’re going to go after Stone for kiddie porn or movie piracy, the vast majority of that data is likely to be completely irrelevant.

Though I dunno, maybe he has a fetish for making video recordings of all of his criminal-conspiracy meetings, or something. That’d be about the right combination of crime and incompetence at crime, for this administration.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9360 "2019-02-04T21:17:41Z")

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I hope he had a rubber stamp of Nixon for all the \*really \*incriminating stuff.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9361 "2019-02-04T22:31:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> “Terabytes” doesn’t really mean much. The most incriminating evidence is going to be in documents that are basically text, and by filesize, the percentage of those “terabytes” that are anything like text is going to be 0%. If the hard drives have that much data on them, then most of it is probably video, or _maybe_ audio or still pictures. Unless they’re going to go after Stone for kiddie porn or movie piracy, the vast majority of that data is likely to be completely irrelevant.

My porn collection is also voluminous and complex, but unlike Stone’s hard drives, does not include Deepfake videos of Donald Trump.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9362 "2019-02-05T01:44:21Z")

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Not Mueller, I know, but still: [Federal prosecutors in New York have issued a subpoena seeking documents from Donald Trump’s inaugural committee.](https://apnews.com/76b2414a6c024c42b1142c1dbed59b9e)

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> A spokeswoman says the committee intends to cooperate with the inquiry. She said the committee received the subpoena late Monday and was reviewing it.
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> It was not immediately clear which documents have been requested.
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> The Wall Street Journal reported last year that federal prosecutors are investigating whether inaugural committee donors made contributions in exchange for political favors. The newspaper said the inquiry also was focused on whether the inauguration misspent money it raised to stage inaugural events.
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> The New York Times reported recently that federal prosecutors are examining whether anyone from Qatar, Saudi Arabia or other Middle Eastern countries made illegal payments to the committee and a pro-Trump super political action committee.

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